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Double Standards, Pyrotechnics and the Power of Fans: A Dive into the Music Industry with Music Elixir

• DJ Panic & Sarah

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Imagine a world where pyrotechnics are a standard part of music performances but come with a risk of disasters like the Rhode Island Station club fire. Now, picture a controversial K-pop group stirring debate over double standards in the music industry. This is the rollercoaster we'll take you on in today's chat. 

We discuss the performance arts, questioning double standards that exist, with a particular focus on MAMAMOO's Hwasa. We also dissect the discriminatory practices within the industry concerning age and gender, and our chat about the use of pyrotechnics in performances will leave you contemplating the balance between spectacle and safety. 

The latter part of our conversation morphs into a serious discussion about fan power and its implications. We'll explore the current situation for some entertainment companies, and the involvement of the UN Human Rights Council in one particular case. As we wind up, we will also share our thoughts on the future of J-pop in the U.S, and the urgency for artists to establish a unique identity. All this and much more as we navigate the fun, the brands, the artists, and the beautiful chaos that is the music industry.

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DJ Panic:

Hello, this is Panic.

Sarah:

And this is Sarah and you are listening to Music Elixir a podcast between two friends discussing their favorite Asian artists and music.

DJ Panic:

Hello, welcome.

Sarah:

We were having a pre Rants and Ramble, Rants and Ramble, and we're still chuckling about it. Yes, we may or may not share what happened.

DJ Panic:

Oh, we probably will. We probably will. But let's just start with this which? I have a job. Oh yeah, I'm employed. Yes, congratulations. So I finally have a job after a year and a half.

Sarah:

For a job.

DJ Panic:

Now you don't have to hear me complain on every episode that I'm unemployed, but I'm. Yes, thank you, thank you. So I'm very happy to be employed in a very, very awesome organization. I will give details later on the things that are going to be doing for this organization. But it's another nonprofit, you know, just like Valley Free Radio is a nonprofit, so I'm a volunteer there, so I don't get paid there. But this time I was another nonprofit but I'm getting paid. So but it has to do with the community, which is amazing.

Sarah:

Awesome. Well, we were talking about it and discussing how your job actually sounds a lot like my new job, Even though I'm still with our old organization. We created a new position. It sounds like we may actually be working together, which would be hysterical.

DJ Panic:

I know, I know. So right now I'm in training and I'm so far I'm loving it just because it's training. But I like knowledge and learning things. I mean, knowledge is powerful, so I got to be powerful for this job. I'm learning as much as I can. My coworkers are the sweetest. I like them so much. Yesterday I was talking with well so I got to deal with nurses. I got to talk with nurses and I was talking with the head nurse and her and I we vibe so much that I think 30 minutes of our meeting was just us just talking about anything and then 30 minutes of the actual job. But she was amazing, she's amazing, she's amazing.

Sarah:

So that's cool, that's awesome.

DJ Panic:

Yes, yeah, she was like okay, I think we we talked too much about ourselves, but she's like I'm so glad you're in the team. We vibe with a lot of things. If you meet her, you will vibe with her too. Really, she has so much like in common that we have so awesome. I know that's cool.

Sarah:

Yeah Well, this is you're in the honeymoon phase. We'll see.

DJ Panic:

I know that's what my family say is that it's just because you're new, just because I'm like, stop it, stop it.

Sarah:

I want this to be like this for until like retire, which is going to be many years, you know, I know at this point, oh, I'm going to be working till the 90s, Unless we win the lotto Girl.

DJ Panic:

Somebody won the lotto.

Sarah:

I know I did play, but we did not win. A billion dollars, hello, and one person won, but in California, right? Yeah, oh, dang it. I know what. California gets everything.

DJ Panic:

Well, they get exactly fires, earthquakes. I was thinking they get all the floods, all the entertainment.

Sarah:

all the, all the bands come to America and they think California is it? No, yeah, I know East Coast.

DJ Panic:

Come on Exactly, but you know what East Coast is getting, also fires, I know floods.

Sarah:

Yeah, yeah, girl the weather been insane. I'm seeing out here.

DJ Panic:

Girl, that was really bad on Friday. That was really really bad. Yeah, when we had that flash flood that you know, scary it is, it is, it's, it's being it's being scary Weather wise.

Sarah:

Well, it's going to say and it's been like that all around the globe. I mean, you must have seen stuff like from India, yes, and Japan, yes, had major flooding. I mean it's just well, hello.

DJ Panic:

Alaska 7.4 earthquake. They had a tsunami warning. What was it like a week ago or so? That was crazy.

Sarah:

Well, and earthquake in oh Idaho maybe.

DJ Panic:

Oh, really, yeah, I can't remember.

Sarah:

It was somewhere out in the sort of middle part of the country.

DJ Panic:

Wow, Somewhere you will never expect. Well, we had one remember.

Sarah:

Oh, my god that was insane. When was that? Seven years ago, it might have been like 10, because we were in the same office, remember, yeah, and you and I, we were like the only two who noticed. We looked at each other. I was like did you feel? I felt like I was like my chair started to roll sideways and I thought I was going to fall over. I was like, was I just feeling faint, what just happened? And we turned and looked at each other and you were like what was that? The Pisces

DJ Panic:

connection. I'm like I'm looking at the fish. Yo, the fish is looking at me.

Sarah:

But everybody else in our room was like what's the matter with you two? We were like we're getting out of this building because we just felt, because then there was like another shake that everybody noticed and we were like where we're out of here Co worker down the whole said did you feel that?

DJ Panic:

And I'm like, okay, let's get out, let's get out.

Sarah:

We do not want to be in this building, especially the, especially that building, Uh, uh.

DJ Panic:

I knew I was going to girl. How can we stay in that building? We always felt like one day this roof is going to collapse on us.

Sarah:

People are going to be like. What is it? Yes, it was hazardous. Yeah, that building's hazardous Well they've been working on it, but still working on it. Yeah, there was a time there Definitely every day. You're like, uh yeah, we can only be a one story building soon, yeah.

DJ Panic:

A girl, I mean in the amount of mold that is in there. Don't remind me Speaking about a model. Uh, I'm sorry everybody, but we're going to talk about music, but this is just very important. But speaking of mold, the courthouse in Springfield is condemned. Oh wow, Because of a mold, because of the architecture. All that mold is trapped between walls. People were being sick, People were got diagnosed with cancer.

Sarah:

Oh, wow.

DJ Panic:

Yes, so they're going to be um supposedly building a new courthouse in Springfield.

Sarah:

Dang my jury duty was there, what yeah?

DJ Panic:

Why not?

Sarah:

Oh, because of where you live. Yeah, they don't let you serve on juries in your what do you call it County. Like you can't be anywhere in your role now in local vicinity.

DJ Panic:

Well, when I was, where I live in North ampton, I was able to go to North ampton. That does not make sense. When was the last time you did jury duty? Um, I want to say five years ago.

Sarah:

Oh, really, yeah, wow, cause they did not like I have a courthouse right down the street from me and they would not let me go there. I had to go to Springfield. I've had to serve in North ampton. I've had to go, yeah, several places. I'm like unlucky with the jury duty pool man. I get called all the time. I'm like has it been three years? Damn it. Oh, my God.

DJ Panic:

Anyways, yeah, I remember when to serve and it's like it's been resolved Everybody go home. I'm like, well, I kind of appreciate it because I didn't have to go to work, but you know, but still, next day I'm just going to be show.

Sarah:

Well, the paperwork exactly.

DJ Panic:

Anyways. So that's a bit of our private. Things are going on with us but yeah life stories. So, as you can tell, this is a rants and rambling. We're going to be talking about a little bit of our personal lives and news that we have found. Not much, though. It's been kind of quiet, which is good. Yeah, some of them that we might have talked on our last rants and rambling maybe Hwasa we did talk about Hwasa.

Sarah:

We talked about Hwasa. Yeah, because she signed with Psy. Yes, but now this news I think this might have been what sort of brought on the move to P Nation. Yes, because although the news, at least here, just came out, it was from an event, I believe that happened in May. Yes, shall we talk about that first?

DJ Panic:

Oh, yes, oh, yes, so because it's not fair at all what she's going through?

Sarah:

No, absolutely not. This was for people who don't know. She was performing at a college event, like some sort of show. I have the article You'll meet. It A college setting Sure. Okay so.

DJ Panic:

I'm going to read the article. This article is actually from All K-pop for anybody who would like to actually deep dive in this situation and after I'm reading about it, if you're a feminist or somebody who is for human rights, then you probably will be interested in this article on this situation. So on July 15th, MAMAMOO's Hwasa took the stage at P Nation Summer Swag and addressed the controversy steaming from a police report filed against her due to her provocative performance at a university festival deemed inappropriate by a parent student association. Hwasa did not shy away from the issue, making it clear she found the accusations to be absurd. This stance was underscored by the immerse of past performances from the same festival, revealing a striking double standard. Footages and images of male idols performing in revealing outfits, engaging in a hip centric choreography, and male students stimulating intimate acts on the very same university stage surface online. So a lot of people after this happened especially Waza's fans or any other fans because they found that the exactly double standard.

Sarah:

Well, we talked about that when we first saw the article. Yes, so it's definitely. It's ridiculous, because what I do remember when I read the article, the argument was that the parent student association felt the choreography did not go with the music and it did not enhance the idea of performance art. Now, first of all, this is a festival concert. It is performance art, but this is not. She's not giving a lecture in a demonstration, this is a show.

Sarah:

Second of all, if they listened to the song, it was for the song don't I think it was called, don't you? But it's. It's, in fact, a song about a double standard. Okay, and it's about like getting together and you drink with your buddies and expect certain things and what. What's wrong with me being able to do the same?

Sarah:

Anyway, the point is, when I listened to the song because I had to I was like what exactly are they saying? This was not performance art. You listen to the song and you see what she did. Sure, it's a little, you know, racy, but I was like it's, it is performance art. It does go with the song, she said, because she's saying don't leave me alone is sort of what the thing is like. Don't ignore me, I don't know. But then I'm also thinking to, like these are college students. Do they really need their parents? I know some college students may be 17, but they really need their parents, like overseeing the entertainment they go to see, and it was entertainment. So, anyways, that's a little sort of backstory for everybody of what, what this was, you know, based on.

DJ Panic:

So, keeping with the same article from all kpop, it says these findings fuel support for wasa among Korean and international fans and rallied backing from the general public. So everybody was on board on this, not just only the fans, but all the people who are not fans that found this like. This is unfair, because if male idols can do that and sing like that to, why not her, why not a female artist? The contrast between wasa's treatment and the acceptance of similar male performances has sparked a large conversation about gender based bias in performance standards. Yeah, no, it's not fair, because we have mentioned before and you can see all the fan cams, yes, especially the very sexual kind of innuendos that the males will do on concerts and sometimes on televised as well, maybe a bit subdued. So, hello, the suggestion is there. Yeah, it's not fair. No, absolutely not. So you have to put all these idol groups. Give them also the same you know, tackle them with the same accusation. That's not fair.

Sarah:

Yeah, as far as the choreography to for a lot of the male idol groups, I mean it really it's not hiding girl.

DJ Panic:

Lately they're like no, they're like ear humping the floor.

Sarah:

Hello, well, who? I don't remember who it was, but one of them was in a glass box and the other one was on top of it. Yeah, the he does the body roll on top while the other one pulls himself up.

DJ Panic:

Oh my God, I know which one you're talking about. I'm talking about.

Sarah:

I'm like hello, exactly what's that? Hey, and again just all the you know and like you said, this is a university.

DJ Panic:

It's not like she was at a elementary school, right, and she's up on there.

Sarah:

You know some kids face right or some you know, family friendly country.

DJ Panic:

Yeah, it wasn't an old age show, it was for college students. But, like you said, how many college students are going to be underage, how many are going to go there? I mean, dan, there's a really I mean good for you If you're like 17 or 16 going to college, but still that's just no Right.

DJ Panic:

That's not right, especially for this university in particular. So it's for this university in particular that this parent, uh, student Association is just having a cow with you know, they just having a cow, and I'm like, okay, so other Jay Park play there. And you know, jay Park, he goes, he is shirtless, with major tattoos, which is, of course, a big no no in South Korea and his performing, you know, with his swag, and you know I'm also pleased.

Sarah:

Well, jay Park I was going to say he has more hip thrusts. Oh like the music's not even on and he's doing it, come on.

DJ Panic:

Just saying Jay Park. If you don't know who Jay Park is, please Google him and find all his music. You will be like dying If he did the same performances at that university many years before her and he wasn't being you know. Tackle with this. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's just yeah. That's the stupid. Or unless everybody's afraid of Jay Park, which I be, I want me to. Yeah, he has a sharp tongue, so watch out with him.

Sarah:

But yeah, no, we talked about that the minute we saw it. We were, like what the the guys get to do, like whatever they want on stage? Yeah, and it's yeah. The double standard is completely ridiculous, exactly.

DJ Panic:

I know I the there are memes out there and there's, you know, Jif's out there of her provocative dancing, that they were calling it, and I'm like, yeah, guys, do the same.

Sarah:

Oh, yeah, hello guys do the same in bands where they have a guitar that they oh geez, exactly, yeah, that's just not fair for was a.

DJ Panic:

We're behind her 100%. That is just unfair. And yeah, I don't know. I think a lot of this BS happened because we're thinking, um, this is me thinking she left that company RBW and it for some reason after that is just like you're not being protected by us here. This is all the stuff that she's been doing and I'm like really, really, like I something think that there's somebody that works or is at this association, works or has somebody working for or family member RBW, and they're like well, just don't worry, honey, we'll just do something for her, just gonna be at this event, blah, blah, blah. She's gonna like I don't know, sometimes it feels like it's vindictive.

Sarah:

You know, yeah, just throwing her to the sharks. Like well, that happens with anyone who sort of goes against the grain of what the company wants.

DJ Panic:

Exactly Like all of a sudden, you're on your own and she's amazing singer.

DJ Panic:

Oh my God, do I love her voice. I have such a girl crush with her lover. Are you snorting over there what you snorting? Nothing. So, yes, what's that? We love you. You got this girl. You got the world behind you. You know the world.

DJ Panic:

So, keeping up with the Korean news, this is kind of new, this kind of good. So this actually article coming out from Sumpi YG's new girl group, baby monster, which I was. I was thinking about them like a couple of weeks ago because they were doing, like short videos and, you know, teasers for the group. So now they are gearing up for their debut, yay. So on July 11th, yg Entertainment said that the debut of baby monster is moving rapidly on the the leadership of the producer Yang Hyunsuk oh, sorry about that, if I didn't say it correctly. Um, so a strong hip hop genre song has been chosen as their debut title track, aiming to be released in September. So baby monster is going to be the first group produced by YG. Uh, that is a multi multinational members. So we have from Korea, ahyeon sorry for the names Haram and Rota. From Thailand, we have Parita and Chikita. And from to Japan, we have Ruka and Asa.

Sarah:

Yeah, we talked about them because they've been in the works for a while and I wonder they probably have been holding off on them, because I believe it's Chikita is very young. Yes, so I think this whole group is young. Yeah, but she's younger, younger like 14. Oh, is she? Yeah, oh, I didn't, let me look that up.

Sarah:

Cause that. What I remember is they came out and then they sort of like everybody stopped talking about cause there was a whole big controversy about her age and how they're being presented. Okay, people thought it was inappropriate how she was being dressed and photographed and whatnot. So I wonder if they were just waiting a little bit for all that to settle down before they were like all right, let's try again, let's bring them up and but yeah, she's, I believe, very young.

DJ Panic:

Let's see, she was born on August 26, 2005. She's 17. She will be 18 in August, all right.

Sarah:

I thought she was younger than that. Hmm, let me see if I can find.

DJ Panic:

Cause.

Sarah:

I know it was specifically her that people were freaking out about. Maybe, Maybe when she started being a trainee? Yeah, that could be. That might be what they were talking about.

DJ Panic:

So of course they're just waiting her for mature. I noticed this group.

Sarah:

They're very everybody's very young but even 17 for female artists is younger. Well, cookie was 17 when he debuted, or 16. Yeah, he's boy, he's male, it's different.

DJ Panic:

It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. It's that double standard again.

Sarah:

That's why you're giving me that it doesn't matter to us, but it's the double standard. It's it's okay for a young boy to be thrown out there at a young age, or whatever. I'm over here yelling at some point. That's a better. It wasn't me saying. I'm just talking about the, the business in general how they view things. I know girl.

DJ Panic:

I'm just over here messing.

Sarah:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

DJ Panic:

So let's see, yeah, they're relatively new. I can't find another one. Let's see, our young is 2007. Oh, maybe it was?

Sarah:

was it her? Oh, yeah, cause she that she's like 15, 16, but when they, when they came last year, yeah, she was 15. I thought it was Chiquita. Why did I think it was her?

DJ Panic:

Maybe is that young, maybe it's her, let's see, but yeah, that that makes her only 16 this year, so she was 15.

Sarah:

So that it might have been her. Oh sorry, I'm maybe mixed up. Like I said, it was so long ago.

DJ Panic:

I don't remember the article I was reading, but there's not much on the girl, so of course I don't have that.

Sarah:

But people, people were freaking out cause they were like she's too young to be dressed like that and being presenting in this type of music.

DJ Panic:

They're all too young if they're under 18, they're all too young to dress, you know, with the shorts and whatnot and just looking.

Sarah:

Well, I mean, it's kind of the fashion trend now. So it's not so much that it's that it's because they're being presented in front of people and showcased and sort of told to you know, act sexy, cute and whatever, and people are like it's not appropriate for a young lady, which is right, Absolutely.

DJ Panic:

True, yeah, there are. See, their season is going to be that they can wear that Right. But I see what the public issue is. But I'm also thinking is this what? Yeah, when they're debuting, they don't have a sale. What to say? You know, wear on whatever.

Sarah:

Yeah, exactly it's.

DJ Panic:

They got stylists and people who are, yeah, again, following whatever the fashion trend at the moment is, and so which you know, sometimes some of these fashion trends have done some full pause and fans are like, what you cannot wear? That cultural appropriation, get it, yeah, yeah, and it's, and it's like, put, it's the fashion. And then it's like and everybody started going crazy, you know, cray, cray, all right, so we're very happy. I can't wait to hear more. I can't wait to see more for the girls. Mm, hmm, some of these girls have amazing vocals. One, oh my God, it's just like yes like I can't wait.

DJ Panic:

They're just amazing, so that's why they're in a group.

Sarah:

Hmm, they've got talent, they got potentials and I like this.

DJ Panic:

I like this, the whole multicultural thing. So why is he trying to do? Well, that's it it's like, and we need to get popular again. Used to be popular, we got to do some you know, it's becoming sort of more typical.

Sarah:

We've got several groups that have people from various places and also from a marketing standard.

DJ Panic:

It's perfect to do that, you know, because when you go to those countries, you will have members that will speak their language and everybody will be like yeah. Appeal to the various fan-based areas oh of course Thailand's going to be so happy. Two members.

Sarah:

Well, it's going to say, yeah, everybody gets a little bit of pride, Like hey, they're from Japan, hey, they're from Thailand. Exactly you know Korea, china, wherever they're from. You get a feeling of like this is for me, this is for my. You know my music and what we love and, yeah, so we get to share it because people are from everywhere. It's awesome, yes, although I really wish that you know, when they said that they're going on an international tour, that they meant more than just Asia.

DJ Panic:

Yeah, yeah.

Sarah:

I get so excited and I'm like oh, you mean, okay, never mind.

DJ Panic:

So, now that you said that about touring, so, as you know, fuji Kase, he is finalizing his Asian tour. Yes, he made that specific. You know, he's like I'm going to Asian countries, which I'm glad he did that, because yet, like you said, there's some entertainment companies are like we're doing an international tour and we're like wait a minute, where's Europe, where's Australia, where's US, where's America. That's not international. Well, what you know, like Korea or Japan, or Thailand and Malaysia, that's not no.

Sarah:

You lie.

DJ Panic:

Well, I mean, it is technically just for them, not for the rest of the world, that we're like, we're waiting for you, we want to give you our money, because that's pretty much how they're going to be. You know, everybody's like okay, we're saving up, we're saving up the money, you know. And then, oh girl, oh girl. So news coming out from the Philippines. So, one of the BGYO members, jello. It was an accident that happened at one of the, I think at the ending of the concert on July 17th, where one of the confetti pyrotechnics he leaned forward too much and it just blew up on his face, causing a large bruise and minor scrapes on his right side of his face. Oh my God, that looked awful. I feel so bad for him.

Sarah:

It could have been so much worse, because those things I mean, it's a confetti cannon.

DJ Panic:

It's an explosion Exactly Of paper. He could have lost his eye, he could have had a concussion, which he actually went to radiology to make sure he was fine. I mean, it could have blown out his eardrums.

Sarah:

Yes, you know, obviously it hit the side. So I mean, wow, that just could have been so much worse. Yes, it's bad enough, but it could have definitely been so much worse. Yes.

DJ Panic:

So he's recovering. So he was sent to just rest and you know he's recovering from that. Oh my God, that was awful. I saw pictures of him. I'm like, oh my God, it's just like. You know, I get the pyrotechnics and whatever, but I have more fear of the fire than just because of what happened in Long Island. Remember the fire of that club? Oh, it was Rhode Island, rhode Island.

Sarah:

Yes, remember that Years ago the station, oh my God, that was awful.

DJ Panic:

That was awful. And again it was because there was fire used at the stage and it was a small venue. And let's say no, yeah, hardly. People came out of the club and people died you know?

Sarah:

Yeah, no, that was bad, there was no business having pyrotechnics there.

DJ Panic:

No, it was a small, it was a very small club.

Sarah:

Small club.

DJ Panic:

So remember the Youngies show. Yeah, I'm like oh my God, the fire, the fire. I'm a water sign. I cannot deal with fire.

Sarah:

We can put fire out. He's a water sign. I know I'm surprised he did that.

DJ Panic:

Okay, so this is funny.

Sarah:

He had a rain.

DJ Panic:

He started with rain and then he has fire all over him. I'm like, oh my God, why? Why don't you know? So anyway. So I don't know if it's just the. These things were too close to the fire. Things were too close to the stage, which I that's kind of like what it looked. It was too close to the stage.

Sarah:

It must have been over. It must have been the angle too, though, because for him to be close enough for it to hit him, the confetti cannon's supposed to blow out over the audience. You know what I mean? Um, not necessarily on the stage.

DJ Panic:

There's safety regulations. We're operating these things. I wonder if this was not really regulated properly, or maybe they had too many that they were not supposed to. If that is to happen, you know yeah so this casualty happened and is unfortunate.

DJ Panic:

We're very happy that he's not nothing worse came out, but we are saddened that he had to. It was hurt. It could have been anybody, you know, and we wish him a speedy recovery. Oh my god, yes, oh, poor boy. You know it's bad enough. You had to dance, you know sing and whatever, and you know your energy at the end of the show is completely gone. This happening to you, I know God, I'm sure. Yeah, fans were like live it. I be too. I am.

Sarah:

Yeah well, yeah, you don't like seeing your, your idol, get hurt. We've seen it with others the ashes falling and someone gets a bit of the pyrotechnic land on them. You can see him, you know, shake it off whatever, and that's just awful.

DJ Panic:

That just reminds me at a King and Prince show on TV. There's a meme out there. There's like a Chilean jiff where they use pirate for the streams. Oh yeah, yeah, for some reason they were not angled properly and they all landed on show and everybody's like he was well, he's strong enough. I mean, the boy is strong. So when he stand up because he crouched down, everything was on tile on him and all the band members were like, where are you? And he came up but he was looking like gasping for air because all this stuff is on him, I was like, oh my God. But they laughed it off. But I'm sure I will be like what the fuck? I couldn't get strangled by them things. Yeah, what the hell are you doing to me? You know so that that's scary, yeah.

Sarah:

Yeah, it is.

DJ Panic:

Hello Arashi for June. June likes to do his thing, remember for sugar, sugar, look at me, sugar.

Sarah:

Sugar.

DJ Panic:

Sugar. Yeah, everybody's doing their thing. And then he started blowing. I'm like, why so much blowing up to give us so much explosive that you couldn't see anybody smoke everywhere? I'm like, dude, you guys could have choked to death from the smoke and we couldn't see you. Anyway, I want to see you do the. You know the special dance, Our favorite choreography.

Sarah:

I know I love that choreography and when that happened, I'm like that goes back to the double standard, though, of Hwasa. We love her. She's choreography, oh my God, right, I do.

DJ Panic:

I love that song and the choreo for that I love it. But all them explosives I know, oh June, please stop it. You're gonna be like freaking ladies what F you? I'm gonna do whatever I want. I'm sure a lot of iterations do agree with me.

Sarah:

Well, in Hawaii wow, considering where we were, they had a lot. The stage was blowing up, they had fireworks.

DJ Panic:

Oh, my God.

Sarah:

They love their pyrotechnics. But we were outside near, we were in a resort area.

Sarah:

Well, it was near the ocean but it was a resort area, so there were lots of hotels and everything around and it was very hot and dry. We were in a field of grass, I mean I think could have caught fire, but oh my God. But they were. Yeah, they were blowing up that stage. There was a lot of pyrotechnics June Blowing up the place and then the second night we had a storm, so there was rain, lightning. Oh, it was exciting, yeah.

DJ Panic:

Of course RSH is a storm. He got to happen. Everything Fire, water, explosives, jeez, total storm. Oh, anyways, so that's what I have going on right now, do you?

Sarah:

have anything else. Well, I was gonna say, you know, we talked about Hossa, who we'd done a single of. Two other bands that we covered on that singles episode have come out with OV yes, dropped their album yes, I think it was earlier last week, but the whole album came out. So we covered their song Gamer yes, and now the whole thing, jackpot, just was released. So that's awesome, that's cool. And then not only did we talk about this group in the singles episode, but we just recently did an interview with them. Yes, second Lady came out with their new single A-S-M. It's awesome. Oh my God, it's so good.

DJ Panic:

We have made, actually in public tweets, that there are our friends, our so-called interview. I'm not even calling it an interview, this was actually a chat, so what you are hearing on that episode is what truly happened there. We had so much fun.

Sarah:

We did.

DJ Panic:

We fangirl at one moment. I don't want to spoil it, because if people have not heard that episode, please go check it out. Absolutely, it was so much fun. I mean we fangirl, we one of the girls in the group, and that part got me so surprised I was gonna say I'm gonna give a little spoiler. Oh, would you want it?

Sarah:

Just a little.

DJ Panic:

Okay.

Sarah:

Well, it was funny because we'd had that fangirl moment and we were actually on other subjects. But you started picking up all of my Johnny's entertainment stuff you were showing like video cassettes, not cassettes like DVD covers, that and my mouse pad of Rishi and stuff.

Sarah:

So in the middle, out of nowhere, you'll just hear Onokun Arashi, because Panic's waving my stuff around in front of the Zoom camera and we're trying to have a conversation. Yeah, it was pretty funny, so give a listen, for that You'll hear just sort of out of nowhere, so that you have context. You understand why people are just randomly saying Onokun and Arashi. It's because Panic was being mischievous and showing off my stuff.

DJ Panic:

You know, because you know, at that moment it felt so like oh my God, it's just like hanging with another. You know, you know, fan and other mute mutual. You know.

Sarah:

Yeah, well, it was just such a real feeling conversation. Even though we were asking questions about specific things, yeah, it was still a really just comfortable, casual conversation. I was like what do I want to call it? It was a conversation. Yeah, we were just like some people you've met, you gelled with and now you're sitting down to really sort of get to know each other. That's just how it felt. It was very, very laid back, very chill. Everybody was just funny doing their own thing.

DJ Panic:

I know everybody had their own. You know exactly their own thing. It was awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. We had some leach ones.

Sarah:

Check out all their music. You know already we love DTB. Oh my God, that was the single we covered. Love that and the new one, asm. It's a really different feel, yes, but just as powerful and awesome a song, yeah.

DJ Panic:

Still punk, pop punk. It's so good. You know, if you think punk is not your thing, check them out, because I think this will be like a step to liking other punk genres of music. They're more pop punk. That's what Elise says that they are. That's how I started with punk music. Well, no, because I started with the Sex Fist Tools and that's just brunch. That's just like the starting core of punk. But I mean there's other. You know the clash, yeah, the clash, definitely. You know there's all other within punk. There's that's like the umbrella, and then there's all other sub genres on their punk. They're more of the poppy side. Some, you know some of the songs that you know are touch of feels, some of those like the party one. You know the TV, oh, my God, ehh, yo. Okay, I just love that song.

Sarah:

Well, I was going to say punk really is sort of taking from all of the other music genres and then just sort of letting loose with it. You know it's the anything goes kind of version of everything else, right, oh, and I really hope they do what we talked about. You got to listen to the episode, people to listen to that interview, because we talked about something. We were like, oh, that would be awesome if you did that. I really hope they do.

DJ Panic:

I hope so. If they do, I know right.

Sarah:

That would be fabulous.

DJ Panic:

I'll send a message to these of me like you. Please do this we're here please.

Sarah:

Well, that's because, think about, a lot of the punk groups actually started out covering, yeah, actual pop songs. Hello, the Ramones, exactly, that's that's where I was going with it. Mm, hmm, and Joey Ramone even talked about he wanted to be, he wanted to do pop music, but he wasn't good enough. No, so that's why they did. None of them were. Nobody really knew how to play their instruments.

DJ Panic:

He couldn't sing, no, and he wasn't a pretty boy either None of them according to those standards. But I'm sure a lot of people love him, oh well yes, they were highly popular.

Sarah:

And they're also. They're just a fun party group, but that's exactly what it was. Half of their catalog is old songs from the fifties, because that's what they grew up listening to. So they were like, well, let's just do this?

DJ Panic:

Do you want to dance under the moonlight? I'm like, oh my God, I love this song. I love the original, and then they did the punk version.

Sarah:

I'm like yes, well, in their version of needles and pins, yes, needles and pins, it's supposed to be just needles and pins, but the way he sings it is pins Is that New York accent Is the New York thing, you know.

DJ Panic:

But yes, so much fun, definitely.

Sarah:

Anyway. So, like I said, I'd love to hear them do what we were talking about. They can pull it off. Absolutely, absolutely OK, I don't want to sing it. I mean, I know, I want to sing it. Yes, so that's cool. Definitely check out their new song.

DJ Panic:

The ladies, they are new. If you're in Osaka, the Kansai region, they're actually touring. If you hear something somebody throwing something out on the dumpster, it was a big crash.

Sarah:

It scared me.

DJ Panic:

So, yeah, support the ladies. They're out there, they, you know, go out. If you go, please go to them and say that Sarah and Panic send you.

Sarah:

Yes. Please tell them that you know and they're doing a festival coming up in August, so definitely look into it. We'll probably be posting the information about it.

DJ Panic:

So yes, so Alaska At least, at least, at least to send me some info to help them out, because how do you get into?

Sarah:

Yes, you get you, and I can't remember we didn't. We didn't get to meet the new drummer.

DJ Panic:

I know they have a new drama. We were hoping that he would chime in and be in the conversation, but so hi, how do you do?

Sarah:

Yes? Hello to the new drummer. Maybe we'll meet you next time.

DJ Panic:

Yes, yes, yes, so hopefully, I know they're working on new music, hopefully on an EP, right, I think that's what the from the last conversation. Yes, support the ladies in the industry Absolutely, and they're amazing. Let's see, I'm trying to think what other news? I don't know what else is that we have around here that we can talk about? Do you want to talk about your Nina channel and what they did this week? The mischievous.

Sarah:

The Mr Nino me on that Nino man.

DJ Panic:

He is a troublemaker for those who are fans of the Denino channel and our Asians, of course, most, most of them, mr Nino Well, janina channel. Yes, all four of them. They did a parody on the to be introductions or announcements.

Sarah:

Yes, the silhouette with the music Dun dun dun. Well, I don't know about the music, but definitely they had the silhouettes. They were all behind these screens waiting for the big reveal. Exactly.

DJ Panic:

Nino's all smiles like laughing about it. Yamada is very serious. Fuma is like shitting his pants.

Sarah:

I was going to say he was having a like a freak out. Is this okay? Are we going to get trouble?

DJ Panic:

Of course you know, the co highs are like I don't know.

Sarah:

I don't know Like you're causing waves causing waves.

DJ Panic:

Nakamaru was like I'm with you, but not like half percent. You're like half half.

Sarah:

Well, I think he was saying are you sure we should do this? Nina's like, whatever, I'm Nino, I can't do what I want, oh my goodness.

DJ Panic:

But you found out I didn't listen to this but you found out that actually Taki said on one of his live that he did talk to Nino yes, he did, and that it was okay, but he felt that what?

Sarah:

That Nino might want to be careful he might get in trouble with his company. Right Taki was okay with it. They've known each other for 25 plus years. I mean they used to work together all the time as juniors, Like you were telling me because you've been following RSU for since they started.

DJ Panic:

You told me that you were saying that you saw Taki Go ahead.

Sarah:

Well, he used to be in a lot of the photo shoots with RSU. I've never I've never really asked anybody, and I haven't because I don't know Japanese. When I read the articles in magazines, I'm not sure I always had the impression that Taki might have been slated to be in RSU. I'm not sure, but during that time leading up to the debut he was in a lot of photos with them all the time, and again they were all juniors so they hung out together anyways. So I'm sure when Nino did this, he gave Taki a call. According to something I saw, someone translated some stuff and they said Taki was like yeah, he called me, we're all good, but he warned him you might want to watch out for your company.

DJ Panic:

Right.

Sarah:

But obviously they knew, because before Junino aired it they had to. Well, I don't know. I don't know if Nino gets permission for the things he does. I'm sh. He's such a brat. He just went and did it.

DJ Panic:

Well, there was, like at the beginning of their first year at you know, the Janino Channel where I'm sure a lot of Mauritians or Janino followers know the episode where they all kneeling on the floor and saying we are so sorry about this video and it was because the company said no, no, and of course it was because it was done without the permission of one of the members who was part of Janino Channel. Ah yes, so this is the episode where they were all watching the video and Yamada was very uncomfortable, while Fuma and Nakamaru were kind of chuckling. They found it humorous.

DJ Panic:

Fuma was chuckling the most, of course, with Nino, because as soon as Nino chuckled, Fuma will chuckle. Nakamaru was trying to like not to chuckle because he felt that Yamada was uncomfortable. But when they started talking about it like, Nakamaru started to join in the other two mischievous and Yamada was like yeah, yeah, yeah, like don't encourage them.

Sarah:

Well, I mean, for a few minutes Yamada actually looked like completely freaked out about the whole thing. Yes, he was like a deer in headlights, like, oh my God, no, like, no.

DJ Panic:

Of course we don't understand Japanese. When I was watching that episode I was like there's something happened that Yamada is not comfortable.

Sarah:

Right.

DJ Panic:

He is not happy about it and I understood, you know, Nino, saying you know this is not really going to happen. So of course I think the company put a kabash on him and said you cannot do that. Here's your favorite word again kabash, Kabash, the kabash, the kabash. So then later on they reveal the video, only the audio, and it's just because they filled inside Yamada's apartment without his permission and Yamada was not happy.

Sarah:

Well, because you know, if people recognize something outside the window like, oh, there's that billboard of whatever, you know exactly. And plus like it's his private personal space. You know that's what I mean. You know no boundaries, he doesn't care.

DJ Panic:

How? Yeah? I remember Yamada was saying to him because I found translations for that episode Like how do you get in here, how do you get Keith? Who do you in in Nino's like your manager? I'm like, oh man.

Sarah:

Nino, what did you do? Well, the manager manager or the building manager like he said manager. I'm wondering if it was the building manager. Like Nino is just like well, I'm Nino, you know me right, we're his friends. Can we just go?

DJ Panic:

You see me here all the time. I just need to go up there. We're going to surprise him for something. I don't know, whatever.

Sarah:

Yeah, they were cooking right, Wasn't it just like they were making dinner? They were making a takoyaki, I think, is it that? Or dumplings? No, they were making takoyakis. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they had the flipping it around with the chapstick.

DJ Panic:

Well, they did the same thing in their studio. What happened, yamada? So they did it in the studio.

Sarah:

Oh my.

DJ Panic:

God, nino, you know I said he's Brad, you know, but I love him, but I think right now he's like you know, with so much craziness that's going on, I'm just going to really do whatever I want.

Sarah:

Well, at this time it is not me. Yeah, really, at this point he's a super senior. You know what I mean. He's oh yeah, arashi's been around for a very long time, so he's sort of above it all, I guess Yep, yep, yeah, yeah, slightly, not quite completely untouchable as far as I'll do what I want.

DJ Panic:

Well, you know, as everybody knows, things are going on with the company. I know Sarah's giving me a face like do you really want to touch a little bit about this? But I'm sure a lot of people know you know let's say that the company's in hot water.

Sarah:

Yes, very hot.

DJ Panic:

Not just only in Japan, but majorly internationally.

Sarah:

Yes, the UN has gotten involved, exactly.

DJ Panic:

So, with that being said, you all know what we're talking. We're hinting out.

Sarah:

We're hinting. Yeah, there's some. I believe something's going to be happening July, starting July 24th through the early August. They're going to be doing a lot of investigation, I guess we should say looking into things, following up on stuff. There's a committee going in to check things out so we'll know more. Probably by mid August There'll be a report out about what's going on, yeah, and what they've found. Again, this isn't the only company with this problem Exactly, it's just the. It's being very publicized and it's been brought up before. This isn't the first time these allegations have come up, so this has been a years long process. Yes, so well. I still think we should wait and find out what really comes of all of it.

DJ Panic:

Like you said, now that you, the UN Human Rights Council is involved in this situation, we're just going to wait what the council has found, or whatever the investigation is about.

Sarah:

This is going to be very lengthy, very involved.

DJ Panic:

There's going to be a lot of and, of course, there's group of fans who are involved in this big issue. So if it wasn't again, the fans, the fans are always there, you know, behind their favorites and companies never treat the fans right, you know. I mean, I do understand some fans can get really, you know, extreme a little extra. Yes, you know there's some of some that will get really really extra, but a lot of them do want their favorite to be treated humanely, properly, fairly and fairly Exactly.

DJ Panic:

So we'll see. So this, this group of fans who want this done properly, got together and, you know, started all this. But yeah, thank you fans, absolutely Thank you fans. And again, the fans are the ones that have the power to make and break a program, make a break a group and make a break a company. Yes, so yeah, this is a little look at what happened with Hype and the probing of the. What the hell Don't you remember when I talked about the probing of the?

Sarah:

fans yeah, yeah.

DJ Panic:

Oh my god. Yeah, people already are like shitting on hype, like I've been hearing things I'm like, well, those are kind of casualties.

Sarah:

Well, this Well, the thing I mean, a lot of companies don't consider the fans. They're only concerned with their product and their talent and controlling that and when you know, really they need to realize the fans, like you said, are the ones who make or break the artists and the company and the music. I mean. I know, yes, obviously there are fans who go a little outer limits, but it's not like there isn't control for that. We talked about the fan sign events like securities behind the artists. The whole time they're around in the venue, the area that they're in, they'll see someone with the camera out or their video recorder, whatever out. You don't have to assault people before they even go in and accuse them of having these items before they even get to see the artists.

Sarah:

You know that's ridiculous you can be, you can do it. So I mean it's. It's just, that was too much. Yes, and it's gotten to be that way. I remember we used to just walk into concert. Yeah, they'd sort of look at you. Yeah, it was very rarely that anybody even padded you down, or they didn't even always make you open your purse.

DJ Panic:

No, yeah, it's just like give me your ticket, go in. I think when they started to like pat you down for like guns and whatever it was, was it in the 80s or was it in the 90s?

Sarah:

I want to say the late 80s? Okay, because there were. Well, no, it was the early 90s, cause I remember one show that I went to where they actually like were checking things, and they were like what is this? I was like it's personal items, like the guy oh, have it back. And they also that was. The other thing is it wasn't women go to the female security, men go to the male. Yeah, it was guys. You just it was whoever was there. Usually a bouncer was a male yeah.

DJ Panic:

Big burly guy looking through your stuff, you know.

Sarah:

but it that it big, big venues. Yeah, it took them a while to sort of be like maybe we need to To have females, Female and male, Female and male, because that, like I said, the guy was totally embarrassed when I was like, um, yeah, you don't want to open that Cause? Well, you can go ahead. See what I got in there, you know, but it's personal items. He's like hey, here you go.

DJ Panic:

I'll be like it's tampon man, Maxi pad, Something you cannot use Well let's Exactly Well, let's just want to try.

Sarah:

Although you know I'm lucky he didn't search it because there was Girl, that's yeah. Well, that's how you get stuff in.

DJ Panic:

Yeah.

Sarah:

Oh, you have the tailgate party in the parking lot, then you go in Mm.

DJ Panic:

Hmm, yeah, the other stuff, yeah, yeah, remember. Yeah, I want to say in the nineties just started to like looking to purses and like, yeah, padding you down, you know, but nothing like or lift your shirt, you know, for the waistband, you know, to see if you have any. Yeah, there was an incident about guns that we were having in clubs and in concerts.

Sarah:

Yeah, so they said, and then they got the metal detector, then they got metal detectors, and yeah, and yeah. And then it reached a point where it was like only the clear bags you started having that happened just in the past. However, five, 10 years or no bags at all. No bags at all.

DJ Panic:

Right now We've been to a few.

Sarah:

Yeah, if you couldn't bring anything in.

DJ Panic:

Exactly. Oh my God, man, that's crazy. So that's, that's what's going on. So that's it, that's what you can't.

Sarah:

Yeah, that's pretty much all I got, I think.

DJ Panic:

Yeah, I'm just like poking around to see if I could find anything, that that metal come up recently. So that's what's going on. Oh, I told you that I started something this morning. Oh, yeah, yeah, I started something. I'm going to get that. Try to sing that song from the.

DJ Panic:

Smiths. But so yeah, just speaking about the fans, and since we started talking about Janino and Takei and to be and to be so trending heavily today, this morning, saturday, was to be. You know how the fans are very appreciative of the company for thinking about the fans on the talent and they're very happy and can't wait to see what's coming for the future of the artists that they are honing, acquiring.

Sarah:

Yes.

DJ Panic:

Acquiring.

Sarah:

And show her on oh has been all over.

DJ Panic:

Instagram.

Sarah:

Oh boy, blue up. He's like I'm going to take a picture of this and post, and I'm going to take a picture of this and post it. He's just going, did you saw?

DJ Panic:

while his first like Instagram stories, I think he had like over 20. Oh he, it was like.

Sarah:

OMG boy. He had like a hundred things. He was answering questions. Yes, so it was. I was like it's like, oh my God, it just keeps going. You saw all the little dots up at the top. Yes, it's going to take me hours to watch.

DJ Panic:

I know I was like boy you it's like, it's like he was like freedom.

Sarah:

Oh, my God.

DJ Panic:

Oh boy, I don't know. It was like I was going to say something, but I better than say that. But it's just like letting that kid on a candy store like Roma to. He's like oh my God, yes, I'll do this. What this question, that question is? I was like, well, I don't understand much.

Sarah:

That's an exception Align emotional freedom he is experiencing.

DJ Panic:

Oh my.

Sarah:

God, well, talk, he's not stupid. This is, you've got to be out there. People have got to see it, you know, and it times, yes, okay, it is overwhelming. We've had bombarded with new information and new stuff. Oh yeah, you and I, we asked for it, we got it. Damn yeah, we were. Since the beginning, we've been saying, oh, everybody, now everybody does have Instagram, tiktok, all these things, and we're like, well, I can't keep up. Yeah, but as far as the artists themselves, they weren't doing in the beginning. All of this promotion and stuff like the, the King and Prince, Twitter was not actually run by those. No, it was just promoting them.

DJ Panic:

Yeah.

Sarah:

So now show her on.

DJ Panic:

I was like to be talkies, like go for it here you go, took it and ran oh yeah, jean, would you do it? This is things you know, but he's not as much as Horano.

Sarah:

No show is like.

DJ Panic:

He loves his fans. He loves his fans. And these fans are like yeah, are you kidding me? They are like huh, taken you what he was doing.

Sarah:

Absolutely. I'm sure that's why he wanted to Mm hmm To break free.

DJ Panic:

Mr Takisawa, I hope that you are listening and you're listening to this. We're very happy and glad about the situation. We're very glad and happy about to be. Please send us a DM.

Sarah:

We appreciate your efforts and we'd like you to appreciate ours.

DJ Panic:

We do have some, you know one. Since this podcast, things have been happening, things have been developing, things have come to fruition, and I just want to say to those people who are listening to us that you're welcome. You're welcome that we are giving you ideas, that you are listening to us that we're saying here's the platter, take from it.

Sarah:

Exactly, it's full. Take as much as you want.

DJ Panic:

You know this is the. We are the minds of the fans. You know things that we have experienced as fans, things that we have been seeing in the industry that works. So you're welcome. You are so welcome. I'm very happy for you and I'm not being salty. You know this is not sounding like. I know it's been sarcastic or anything like that but no, I'm genuinely happy you know gratitude that you're actually listening to the fans and you're listening to us. We're fans.

Sarah:

Exactly, but that's a listening to the fans. You're listening to us, yes.

DJ Panic:

Yes, so also other people out in the media who are actually taking hints or things that I'm actually have started and you know catapult following my footsteps. I'm so happy I am. You know what it is, you know I mean people don't people don't want to give me the credit, but I understand other people have done similar things and it's just like you know, everybody has things have been done, if not twice, three times or five times. But just taking that idea, I'm just happy. That it's just. I'm glad. I'm happy for you, I'm happy for you, boo, you know, do your thing, Do it correctly, of course. So I know people are like, oh my God, did you panic with a big old head?

Sarah:

No, no, it's just you know, but it took the words right out of my mouth, literally no.

DJ Panic:

But you know, it's just. You know, I sometimes do need to give myself a pat on the back.

Sarah:

Once in a while you got to chew your own horn because otherwise no one will hear the parade Exactly.

DJ Panic:

Exactly so I'm very happy.

Sarah:

Everybody's like Sarah. What is wrong with you?

DJ Panic:

You know, I was there for the birth of K-pop, but they came here in the US with BTS. I was there also with the, with the birth of, like you know, the P-pop that started after the K-pop, which is still actually rising here in the in the US. Hopefully it gains, gains more momentum, you know. And now the birth of J-pop in the US, which is getting strong this year. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.

Sarah:

The winds of change are coming.

DJ Panic:

It's happening because people are seeing it, fans are talking about it, you know, especially US fans. I mean, some of them are really like well, j-rock is already being known a lot because of anime. Now J-pop is has to do the same Come on.

Sarah:

Well, we've been going to see J-rock artists for years now, yeah, years. So J-pop could definitely make its mark here and there've been a lot of, as you know, a lot of J-pop fans already here. Just such a small community because there isn't as much promotion for it. You know, bts lucked out a lot of people like it got a lot of airplay and because it was out there. So, exactly, j-pop's starting to catch up and that's because people are breaking away from the norm and the major industry stuff and doing smaller projects.

Sarah:

So no, I do want to make a mark.

DJ Panic:

I do want to say that in the J-pop industry a lot of people are going to confuse them as K-pop. I get that, but they need to find a way to actually find something special, to really disassociate themselves from, let's say, the K-pop category, but just to be J-pop. I'm thinking people, I'm thinking, I will say something out on this podcast and somebody will catch it and they'll be like let's do this.

DJ Panic:

But one thing I want to say let go of the Gaudi costumes. Well, gaudi costumes are a thing of the past. Please come on.

Sarah:

Well, some of you are giving me a face like come on, girl. No, because I'm thinking some of the K-pop's still have a little bit. It's more toned down, but there's still a little. Yeah, there's glitzy, and then there's I don't even know what's Gaudi glitzy versus Gaudi the.

DJ Panic:

Gaudi is like what I'm talking, that you're wearing furniture on yourself, drapes, tassels, like majorly, just like too much. No, this is not a fashion show. I get you know, like you some of the houses of whatever they're doing, some like Abstract, what? I get that but you're not dancing and singing on the big old boba feather thing that you know again, you know, I know what you say you know, and then you know you're wearing 50 pounds of rhinestone, no, while you're dancing and singing.

DJ Panic:

That is just inhumane. It is. It's a little much. I mean, we have seen the backstage for the footage when these these artists are like stripping sweat and dehydrated Because they have to dance in such costumes that they cannot really breathe on well, and it's almost like it sort of got worse more recently, like there's actually more of that.

Sarah:

I don't, I don't know. We've been seeing that more, though. Yeah, we've been seeing more thinking back to all the Irish concert's I've watched and I'm like there was a period of time there where Irish she was actually like toning it down. They were like, no, we're not, not wearing 50 pounds of feathers, no.

DJ Panic:

Oh, like sweats the most. He's with buckets, if not rivers. Poor boy. Oh man, I'm taking care of yourself. He's so skinny. But you know, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, people, and don't don't say about, I know you said well, people need to see them from far away because of what we got jumbotron. You don't need to have the big John, you sit, it's there, use it. You know you pain already close to like a thousand dollars for a ticket.

Sarah:

Well, like I said, even there the jumbotron is not quite enough, but no, it's. This was pre what we're talking about now. Yeah, those concerts didn't have as much of the high tech super duper. So you did. You needed to know who your artist was out on the stage. But yeah, we're sort of pass that now. Sort of pass that, yeah.

DJ Panic:

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I.

Sarah:

I I.

DJ Panic:

I, I, I I.

Sarah:

Want to know. Wow, actually, you know now that I'm thinking that's like how Liberace was but he wasn't dancing. Yeah, that's true, but he was parading around in like 50 pounds of sequins. He loved that though.

DJ Panic:

That was his thing.

Sarah:

He will come out and the rings, the jewelry, the bling he always had.

DJ Panic:

I think the bling help him play? Yeah, that could be, but I mean, again, he wasn't singing, he was just sitting down and playing. Yes, oh, he's saying, he's saying a little. I thought he was more just playing piano mostly.

Sarah:

He was just mostly playing pianist, but he'd like to. He'd do like a monologue while he was playing. Talk to the people. It's not like oh bolting it? Oh yeah, no, no, and he certainly was not well, he's blitzing rancid across the stage, but he was not. Oh, that is so tiring.

DJ Panic:

Oh, you know, to do a few laps just to go.

Sarah:

Oh my god lovely bro, she love him. Yes, well, I think on that note we've we pretty much covered what we needed to.

DJ Panic:

Yes, I put out my words out there. Just watch it. Just watch, girl. Watch some things that are gonna change. Thank you, everybody for listening to this rancid rambling on music alexer, yes, please rate review and share, share, share. Give us five stars, please give us a small blur on apple podcast and on spotify, so more people can check this out, you know.

DJ Panic:

Share yeah, exactly, share with your mutes. And if somebody that you know this like, hey, wait, they're talking about to be ingenuo, share with your friends. You can also just skip to that at you know part and just you know, share it. We got all the more talking about the. You know more brands, artists, industry yada yada, and please check our second lady chat. Yes, yes and follow the ladies.

Sarah:

Please go to the show. Yeah, you think we're crazy, just the two of us. This was just chaos. It was awesome, it was controlled chaos.

DJ Panic:

Yes.

Sarah:

We, we did have, you know, a sort of line we followed. Yes, we got off track a couple times, but we went back, you know. Friends do exactly that's what we do. Yeah, all that's what rancid ramblings are. Yes, we're just all over the place.

DJ Panic:

Yes, so until next time, yes, bye, bye, bye, yanny.