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Music Fandom Frenzy: Concert Woes, Ticket Battles, and the Pulse of Live Performances
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Ever find yourself scrubbing furiously at a concert stamp that just won't quit? Join Sarah and DJ Panic as we chuckle over the clingy aftermath of a Robyn Hitchcock gig. But it's not all about stubborn ink; we'll whisk you through the rollercoaster of emotions when your favorite artists like I.M and YOASOBI play concerts on the same night. Music lovers and concert-goers alike, lean in as we share our tales of woe and wonder from the frontlines of live music.
As much as we adore the thrill of the stage, snagging tickets can be a showdown with disappointment—especially when faced with ticket scalpers turning our dream seats into budget nightmares. Picture this: you're in a digital queue, 16,000-strong, for a 5,000-seat venue. Frustrating, right? Hear us out as we rally behind artists crusading against exorbitant resale prices and reflect on the ups and downs of securing those coveted passes. And let's not forget the magic sprinkled by stage designers who transform venues into immersive realms, much like Bad Bunny’s recent gigs that have set our standards sky-high.
Our episode's finale isn't just a plea for podcast love—though your support through ratings and shares does give us extra pep in our step. It's about the shared heartbeat of every music fanatic—a rhythm that echoes through Arashi's anniversary celebrations to the evolving fan communities and the anticipation of new tour dates. So, buckle up for a joy ride through the rich tapestry of the music industry and the colorful experiences that stitch us all together. Grab your headphones and let's groove through the beats of this musical extravaganza together.
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Speaker 1Welcome everybody to another episode of Music Elixir with me , sarah , and .
Speaker 2You're laughing . You were looking at something , no .
Speaker 1I had a momentary blank . Where am I ?
Speaker 2Yes , I'm DJ Panic .
Speaker 1Yeah , where am I ? Who am I ? Omg .
Speaker 2What's going on ? No , I'd say you went to the bag bunnies concert oh my god , no , I'm just like .
Speaker 1It's been a crazy week , oh yeah , for both of us , apparently . Yes , what ?
Speaker 2happened to your arm ? What's on your ?
Speaker 1hand . Oh , it's a stamp . Oh okay , I went . I was at a show last night .
Speaker 2I was like I'm like what happened that night ? I'm like , did she get that ?
Speaker 1no , but they . You know some places like give you a hand stamp so you can come and go . Theirs is like some sort of intense stuff I don't know what is that . What is the drawing about ? I I think it's some sort of bug . Okay , it's not quite a butterfly , not quite a bee . I don't know what it is , but I was like is it a fairy ?
Speaker 1I don't know dragonfly no , maybe yeah , I don't know okay , you went to a kaiju convention no , actually it was um robin hitchcock okay , cool , and he was playing . I mean , maybe it's the symbol for the place that he was playing at okay it was fun , it was , it was interesting , okay . Well , you've seen him , you know what his stuff's like .
Speaker 2It's very , yeah , makes you think outside the box a lot so yeah you need to be in the right mindset definitely yes , okay , but anyways , yes .
Speaker 1So they use some sort of intense ink , because this stuff does not come off even what if you rub alcohol ?
Speaker 2I haven't tried that yet . Okay , that sometimes works . That works with some sharpies , because that had happened .
Speaker 1No , I thought about that , but I was like I don't want to dry out my skin a whole lot either . So right , okay , rubbing alcohol will definitely do so yeah I'm already dry . Who ?
Speaker 2lotion afterwards . You know it's good vaseline maybe ah , or even uh like acetone .
Speaker 1Oh damn that one girl .
Speaker 2Yeah , burn your flesh geez girl acetone , that's for you , that's for varnish , I know that's so true . And then you put it on your nails because you know that's the varnish , that's for varnish , I know that's so true . And then you put it on your nails because you know that's the varnish , that's lacquer .
Speaker 1Oh , geez anything for beauty right actually I was just looking at your nails because I was like oh , did you ?
Speaker 2no , that you know I'll wait because , yeah , the , that dip is so intense , then I'm just like I need to give it some rest . So I'm thinking maybe get my nails done professionally , like quarterly , so with the season . So you know for march , you know for the , you know the , the green one , um , it's not , it was not really spring , but I mean . So now I'll just wait a little bit longer . Maybe I'll do like summery type of Something bright and colorful , yeah .
Speaker 2For the non-existent summer I mean spring that we have , I know right . Watch it Like is it tomorrow going to get like 80 degrees ? On Monday it could be , yeah .
Speaker 1I mean it was crazy this morning . It was really cold and it's heating up a lot just between leaving my house and getting here I was like oh no . I dress for the cold , and it's not cold anymore .
Speaker 2In New England we still keep our scrapers and sand , just in case it snows again , you know .
Speaker 1Oh , no , yeah , you can't get rid of all that till mid-May . Yeah , Just in case .
Speaker 2That is so true . Like we at work , they have a deck . And last summer when I was hired , I was during the summer , so it was really nice . And last summer when I was hired , I was during the summer , so it was really nice . So , of course , just getting there and I was like hey , when are they going to put the stuff out there , you know ? And somebody said probably like almost close to June , I'm like what , but it's kind of nice .
Speaker 1Now , you know , I don't know who knows Turns on a dime .
Speaker 2Can't count on it so , anyways , besides our craziness musically , there's been some things happening uh , yeah sarah and I were we were discussing before recording because another thing has blown up up with this huge drama it . It is definitely drama like wacky things that just like how many people is it was . It's like a major drama , like a k drama yeah , oh yeah , like a really out there k drama like that . Oh my god , is this really happening ?
Speaker 1well , and it's yeah , everything . It's gone so far from what the original issue was .
Speaker 2Yeah , that I was like .
Speaker 1I don't know how much we should really talk about this , because it's sort of going into woo , woo delulu .
Speaker 2Right , like a K-drama . It's like all you need is a soundtrack for this and let me tell you , it's like probably the most seen or follow drama that is going on right now . Yeah , it's crazy it has a lot of your favorites , you know . So it's like a drama , oh my goodness . Yeah , so sarah's like I don't know , because this is like , and I'm like , yeah , it's like every every day , something new happens .
Speaker 1Right , but everything keeps getting a step further away from what the original issue seemed to be .
Speaker 2I'm like what ? So we're just going to be encrypted . But I mean , I'm sure a lot of people may have an idea .
Speaker 1Well , especially with us talking about the woo-woo and delulu , because I know accusations from all sides claiming everybody else is , you know yeah , doing witchy poo and do it especially the witchy poo so it's like yeah , as outsiders , not no , you know , relying on translations especially , yeah , it's in some tabloidy things that we see online that we're like jeez , it's a I know it's a tabloid , you know type of you know news .
Speaker 2So so it's over sensationalized , exactly you can't go with that , like that kind of information . So we're just seeing and watching and reading and seeing major fights for things that were it's like , listen , it's not really I don't know . I know well a lot of the , a lot of division division .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , yeah , oh , yeah definitely a lot of division well they're when you're talking about fandoms as well . Yeah , there's already division , and now it's like .
Speaker 2It's like fueling that negativity that these fandom have for each other . I mean not all um . There are not all like that . It's just pretty much the antis right because , their other fans are just like , so yeah no , that's what I mean .
Speaker 1So it's .
Navigating Public Perception in the Arts
Speaker 1You've got , as with anything , in politics , in entertainment , you've got people who are extreme about what they believe , and then people who are like , well , you know , aren't they all part of the same mix here , isn't this ? Aren't we just talking about artists and artistry ? No , no , no , because you got to remember , behind all of that is corporations and big business , and exactly , yeah , they don't fight fair no , so no , they start to just dig in that dirt to find all kind of dirt and just throw it back at .
Speaker 1That's why I never got into politics I'm like nope , I don't . Oh yeah , it's bad enough that people on the day-to-day want to dig into your business , but once you become a major figure like that , forget it . All bets are off .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , and I don't even really think I have that much in my past , but I I don't want any of it to come out when people are out there to just try or not , just want to hurt you not trying , just want to hurt you they might not find much dirt with you , oh , but they'll mix them up , they'll find an ancestor of yours that you know must , oh my God , did something bad for humanity killed blah , blah , blah . How many people you know ? She comes from a line of a murderer , you know , yeah .
Speaker 1Well , or even just something simple , like you know , pulling your keys out of your pocket and you drop like a candy wrapper by accident and don't notice it , they're going to turn that into . You know , you throw out all kinds of trash and you you don't recycle and you're a bad person . You run around just dumping garbage everywhere .
Speaker 2Exactly .
Speaker 1Yeah , they turn anything , anything they can , into something huge . Yeah , and it's everybody's got to remember , it's not the artists , it's not the artists , it's not the artists doing this . They got to play by rules too , you know . And exactly , there's contracts there's .
Speaker 2You know it's your job . I mean , they have some things to say , but yeah there's .
Speaker 1There's a little bit of autonomy , but for the most part , you've got deadlines as far as music and we want you to project this image . And you know exactly , and it's not new , none of this is new , no , because we were saying like , look at what the beatles you were just watching that duran duran thing . They , yeah , you know , all of these groups have gone through this a huge one actually to reflect on would be the monkeys . They were put together to be a tv show .
Speaker 1They learned to play instruments , became a real band , but people always knocked them down and discredited them musically because they're like you're manufactured , you know they play their own instruments and then you're manufactured .
Speaker 2I'm like they were not faking play .
Speaker 1You know , not all of them initially played an instrument . Right , they all learned to be musical . One of them was from a musical theater background . You know what I mean . It's not like he didn't know how to sing or do stuff , but because it was a show , everybody was like , oh they don't know how to do it . You know .
Speaker 2Right and highly popular , because that's the thing as soon as you get highly popular , oh , haters .
Speaker 1Everybody comes out , the antis .
Speaker 2Oh , the anti , the antis , they're out there Quickly , exactly , quickly , look .
Speaker 1What are they doing ? What are they doing and to exactly and it's look what are they doing ? What ?
Speaker 2are they doing ? And ?
Speaker 1to treat it like people can't grow and learn to do something can't be trained . I had to be trained how to play an instrument , you know . It's not like this innate ability that you're born with , exactly you know . So , yeah , it's just some major craziness going down .
Speaker 2Like you said k drama it's a complete k drama that all you need is a soundtrack for and we gotta hit . I'm sure it'll be a movie soon , right ? Oh , my god , right it . Should there you go , start getting that idea in there , be like no , it doesn't resemble anything like that . This is , you know , made up it's my original work nothing like that ever happened in this century . Oh anyways , before I start saying more things , yeah , but hey , now that we said that watch it , something's gonna happen .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , I mean , we're not gonna be writing this , but somebody out there already is like omg .
Speaker 2Yes , that's such a good idea yes I think we have been putting seeds in people's heads and things happen , especially in our favorite , you know , companies like all the time oh , look at that .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , the woo , woo , the woo woo delulu , yeah oh my god , you know , speaking of woo and delulu , you came across something from some . An artist that we really like , who touched on something we had been talking about with our ats , is going on tour . Good luck getting tickets exactly so why don't we ? We can segue into that .
Speaker 1Let's talk about that , because this week has been very traumatic for me , but I'm not going to be talking about that anyway , so family wanted to go see yaosobi now yaosobi and I am are going to be in boston on the same day I know I , when we were talking , was like what are they trying to do to us Exactly Two artists we really want to see Exactly On the same night , you know , and we've been asking everybody please come to Boston , boston , we love you See , not on the same night Exactly .
Speaker 2Please face yourselves so we can go see you . So , anyways , so yeah , that so . But um , I found out about the I am tour before before you know they also be some , so I'm like sarah , sarah so of course they got tickets for that .
Speaker 2Yay , now . Um , then later on , but the same date later on , y'all . And that's when I'm like rmg y'all , so be too . And you're like what are you trying to do to us ? I want to go see them too . I'm like I know , all right , the big issue going on with yosobi . You only have two dates , new York and
Artist Speaks Out Against Ticket Scalping
Speaker 2Boston . So family wanted to go see Yaosobi . They were in there waiting for tickets . Then I'm like , well , I hop in the other computer and wait for tickets . They got the 300th spot waiting for tickets for Yaosobi .
Speaker 1In the queue , in the queue For the pre-sale wow they were the 300th person you know , like you know that queue yeah yeah , so they were the 300 .
Speaker 2They were like right there on the dot . You know I hop in as soon as I . I got uh lunchtime , so I got on the computer by that time I was the 16 782 person . Oh my god , mind you , this venue , mgm and fenway only hold 5 000 people .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's the capacity that's small compared to you know , when you think of like td garden and madison square garden and stuff exactly , so that , yeah , you don't have a lot of opportunity family were already there at 300 .
Speaker 2They were there waiting before 12 . I jump in at 12 . I forgot when , exactly before 12 , they were on , but let's say , from that time to 12 . At 12 they were already at the 16k . Wow , like . I'm like . Oh , mg , I'm like , were you able to get some ? Were you able to get some ? And they're like every time I click on something , it's sold , it's sold , and then it's , and then and I'm like , oh mg , that's messed up . So they weren't able to get tickets . The cheap tickets went out in seconds and then it started cascading down and then , when they got to like the 300 , they're like no , we're not gonna spend in that much for that .
Speaker 1You know , they had us they had a limit , don't we all ?
Speaker 2yeah . So they had a limit . So as soon as they couldn't get the price they wanted , they bailed . So I'm like , well , I'm gonna right here . And then when I , when I was looking at the counter , the queue started to go down quicker and I'm like why is it going so quickly ?
Speaker 1Because everybody was getting in and finding out there are no tickets .
Speaker 2Exactly .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's the worst .
Speaker 2Exactly .
Speaker 1Oh , nothing OK .
Speaker 2So I'm , so I'm looking and maybe I'm able to find something . No , nothing . Everything on the price range they wanted was already taken .
Speaker 1See , and this is where we get into , was that the original tickets in the original pricing or is this now resale the ?
Speaker 2next day it was the resale , so the actual general public ticket , you know , to order . They went back to the queue to see if they can get anything . No , everything that it was there was for resale no , it's ridiculous so the 60 tickets that they wanted were triple the price , if not 200 bucks .
Speaker 1Wow , I'm like with that , snows , bleeds exactly , yeah , yeah , no , definitely that was this mess up , so don't be spending 300 for a 60 seat , exactly , and that's what we had talked about last time , and you found something I said from one of our favorite artists .
Speaker 2That's what's going on with y'all , so we'll be on both dates . On New York and Boston yeah , oh , wow . So , as we had also remember , we wanted to go see Kazé and the same thing happened , where tickets just like sold out , that he had to then do a new a second date . And we're like like this is awesome , but then we're just like the same thing .
Speaker 2so I'm like okay , it's just not not meant to be . So he posted this week uh , on his instagram reel he was he posted saying please never buy ridiculous expensive tickets . Please save your precious money or use it for other useful things Peace , yeah , that's so true , you know . He even knows I'm like no , please don't be buying tickets that I was selling for for like 150 . They save for like 800 or a thousand dollars . It's not worth it .
Speaker 1Your hard earned money could go to actually feeding yourself , paying bills .
Speaker 2Exactly .
Speaker 1If you have that kind of money to just burn , then donate it to , like you know , children's hospitals , education programs , exactly Something , yeah .
Speaker 2Because number one , he's not seeing that money . No , no , absolutely not I mean , yeah , he got paid because all those seats were sold , but I mean anything resale . He's not getting that money and like he doesn't care , but I mean it's like no , it's sold out , that's okay , it's fine , you know ? Don't , don't , don't kill yourself by spending all that kind of money just to see me .
Speaker 1It's insane and it's , it's good to see an artist say that like , yeah , you know , I , I love my fans and I'd love to be able to perform for you , but don't don't break yourself Exactly Trying to pay for tickets to see me , especially when the benefit is going to someone else completely . He's a very , you know , giving person .
Speaker 1So , it's not like he's going to get to do anything with this money either . You know what I mean . So it's good to have artists speaking out like that and saying look , we know what's going on and we don't like it . A few artists here have tried doing that , trying to fight the system . It's hard . It is Because there's no controls on it , especially here in the US . I don't know know how it is in other countries , but it's bad here well , I I don't know how the um japanese lottery system uh works .
Speaker 2You know the lottery system yeah , yeah it's like , uh , yeah , you buy a ticket , but it's like , I guess , where you don't pick your ticket , you don't pick your seat you , just they pick it .
Speaker 1That's my understanding of it as well yeah , so it's if you're lucky enough to get a ticket , you get what you get , and that's . I mean , that's kind of how it used to be , because I remember when we stand in line to buy tickets , yeah , you just told them , you know I need three seats , and they whatever three seats were available , and at that moment there's your tickets . I don't remember getting to pick where we sat . That's a fairly new concept yeah , I remember the lottery .
Speaker 2Yeah , they should do that too . I don't know why they're not doing that online too that does not make sense .
Speaker 1I mean I understand , uh , maybe for general admission , but when it comes to seating , well , I mean it makes sense to be able to pick your seat , but like then it should just be this top tier . Tier three is 60 , the next tier down is 75 , and then you want to be on the floor or whatever . It's 100 , like it makes sense . The closer you are you might want to pay a little more to see right the artist , but then to be like , oh well , because so many people looked at these seats , we're gonna bump up the price and then , after we've done that , somebody else can resell that ticket to you for triple the amount , because we've sold it for what we want yeah no , it's uh insanity I remember for bts tickets remember that one seat that it was like 10 grand .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , we're like what ? 10 grand for one seat ? You can buy a car . I love bts , but I can probably get the DVD or the Blu-ray when it comes out of the same concert . Exactly , and see them closer . Exactly , you can really see their face . Yeah , you know , and you're better with no crazy fan next to you yeah Well in their last set of concerts , remember ?
Speaker 1fan next to you . Yeah , well , in their last set of concerts remember it was it was sold out before it even went to like public the , the fan club in pre . You know , I have a platinum , whatever card so I get pre-sale tickets right like it's sold out in that . So there wasn't even general public sale . It was like insane . We were we're like well , also , it's only la and only vegas , you know , for those shows .
Speaker 2So oh , yeah , those , those two last ones . Yeah , well , you know , our friend went to the one in vegas . Yes , I was like you got more money than I do , so you know have fun , yeah well , price of the ticket . Then you got to get out there , fly out there , find a place to stay , oh , and also my friend tried to go also to see uh , yeah , also be , and I had the same problem so I was .
Speaker 1I meant to ask you was she able to get tickets ?
Speaker 2no , oh man , no , because , um , I send her a message on Thursday , which was the pre-sale , and then I texted her and said , hey , were you able to get tickets ? I heard that it sold out . And she's like no , the sale's not until Friday . And I'm like no , there's a pre-sale right now . She was like what , what is the password ? And I'm like so I told her the password . She went in to hopefully no , yeah , nothing . And she was like , oh my god , maybe . And then she was thinking she was giving herself hope . She said maybe they will only have enough for pre-sale , maybe tomorrow there is more . No , well , that was shitty , you know . Like if you're gonna have a pre-sale , that is under , they should have a certain amount of money . I mean a certain amount , you know all should be .
Speaker 1Yeah , it should be blocks , Exactly All right , capacity is five thousand . We're going to have fifteen hundred pre-sale Right and then if you don't get that , you have to go into the general public , you know .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 1Section that goes on sale tomorrow exactly . And then people , then the tooth and nail happens trying to get the tickets that exactly but yeah , no , none of them do it that way anymore . No , because , like I said , you've got the the credit card .
Speaker 2Platinum member pre-sales and the fan club pre-sale right you get . You get perks if you are a certain you know , like an american express or I don't know some black card or something . Yeah , it's like oh geez .
Speaker 1And if it's in a like you know city bank kind of venue . That's true . They have their own little perks for you know members and oh , like when again , when we used to have to just stand in line and wait , the only people who got perks were like coca-cola company , because they had a box at the stadium or at the venue whoever was a major commercial you know , have commercials .
Speaker 2You know doings with the , with the venue , they will have perks yeah , like me being .
Speaker 1I was in camera business . I got to be in the nikon box for a red sox game . But , like that box also is not right down front europe , but it's luxury seating you know you get catered and everything . Oh yeah , oh see , that's why you know the perks is of , you know , and we're not sponsored by any of these companies we just named , just name a few , we're just sarah was able to experience that .
Speaker 2I never have like that experience , but maybe one day it'll happen yeah , well , I had to bust my hiney to get there because it was a perk like we got for promoting brand cameras .
Speaker 1Okay , like these companies , that's what they do is sell our product and we'll give you tickets for this or that .
Speaker 2You know you get some incentives . You know that was my perk .
Speaker 2Awesome , awesome oh yeah , so , but that was specialized stuff you know , and now everything is like that it's yeah so the the general population doesn't get access to these things so I , you know , like hasa says , please don't , don't waste , don't don't give money to the sculptors . Pretty much , you know he's just saying in a very nice way but don't give money to sculptors . You know they're just just take your money . But you know there's some fans they're like I don't care yeah , I don't know when I'm gonna be seeing you , so I'm just gonna pay . At least he warned you or gave you advice yes , he gave you advice you know , use your money for something better , something that you really need .
Speaker 2Yeah , like you don't need me you know , he's happy to have your support . He's so happy to have everybody's support . You know from , you know watching his uh , the videos and buying his music , and you know that's that's good enough for him . So Well , I was thinking because I definitely
Concert Stage Design and Experience
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1I spent a lot of money to see Arashi , but the tickets themselves were a set price . I don't remember experiencing any resale thing . It was just you bought them , they were this much , so the rest of it was all on me . I was like , well , I've always wanted to go to Hawaii .
Speaker 2I think that's what I have heard . For the lottery , yeah , don't quote me , but besides you , somebody else also said that that the venue could be like okay , let's like the MGM , you know Fenway , but every ticket is the same price .
Speaker 1But it's lottery .
Speaker 2It's like you pay 50 bucks and then this is the shoot . You could be a nosebleed or you could be a front .
Speaker 1Well , that's what happened is my cousin bought a set and then I bought a set because we went to both nights and the first night we were like way over to the left . But bonus perk , I mean , they make sure they set up their stage , they have the little carts that go over the crowd , go between the crowd , but we were also right next to a special stage where they came and performed . So we were like right 20 feet away from them for this one little set and that was awesome . Right next night we were on the other side , closer to the front , but you know same price tickets . And that was when , like , nino and iba went right over us you know the the night before they didn't .
Speaker 1The people movers , the rse movers , went by us , yeah , but we didn't get the stage that went over us . But again , we were right next to that specialty stage . So , right , you know , I think that's the difference is they're like , okay , everybody's paying the same price . So we're going to make sure everywhere you are , you experience something .
Speaker 1Because it was yeah , it was this weird little like add-on side spot that we were in the first night and then we were sort of more in the crowd but we were fairly close to the front . It was random .
Speaker 2We whatever we got , we got , you know right so that's , that's so funny , because that's what that one thing , that well , the bad bunny uh show at xl . Yeah , there were tears of money , but he did like you , you know like . Do you remember when I said this kind of looks like a starto , like ?
Speaker 2staging yeah because he had , like he , there was a , there was a two half circles , once to one side and then the one to one . Yeah , one side of the venue , like let's say , north and south , one to the south and the other one to the north , and then it has that walkway . I told you , like right in the middle , that it moved so you were able to see him a little bit closer when we were up and I'm like , oh my god , and then , but he was so good about paying attention to everybody that he was going up and down the catwalk or he'll be in the middle playing around with the crowd . The same thing with the half circle , so whatever he attention he was giving on that side , he then mirrored on the other one so everybody were able to just see him perform . For that too . Plus , in the middle , because it's also a sports arena , they have the uh , the big jumbotron things .
Speaker 2Yeah , so in the middle you get to see him as well . Oh my god , if june was there he would have been like I want those people . I want those camera people . They were good . They were good camera . I'm like sometimes I was watching more of the jumbotron because I could really see him . They capture so many good angles that was like wow , that's the good thing .
Speaker 1Now , a lot of the newer arenas and places that get remodeled and redone , they are sort of taking into mind now that , like you do have this space , because we used to go see things at the garden and I mean the stage was the stage and they were just at the far end , exactly , no matter what . When they started updating the garden they they were like well , we have it's a hockey arena in a basketball arena , it's everything . There's all this space instead of just seats . Yeah , we can bring the artists out into the mix and more people will see .
Speaker 2You know , it was like somebody exactly they suddenly had this epiphany like oh wait , we could have the you know and so now they're designing things with that in mind .
Speaker 1That , like , not everybody wants to just have the stage and be you know stationary up there playing .
Speaker 2They want to be interactive with the audience right and that's accommodated now and it's yeah , it's awesome because that's what he did , and in the middle of a pit of people which they moved . Like when you were talking about that there were some people like leaning on the other stage , like waiting . I'm like we're just going to stay here fresh , because when he moves over here you know blah , blah , blah , while everybody's pushed up on the other one . So I was seeing that move .
Speaker 2Now they're like fine , they can go over there , I'm staying over here , I'll just see him from over here , you know . So that was yeah , that was cool . But yeah , the whole racing of the stage spinning , I'm like wow , Starto .
Speaker 1Exactly .
Speaker 2So Bad Bunny ? Yeah , he was there for everybody and oh my God was he awesome . He was awesome . Anyways , how did we start it with the whole staging ? I completely forgot we were talking about the lottery and oh yeah , and , and the stage , and how how close you are and so that , yeah , that they should bring definitely one prize only lottery and then have these kind of productions so everybody can see .
Speaker 1So it wouldn't matter that's why june and obviously the company came up with these ideas of having the moving stage that goes around the audience so everybody can see them , because earlier days I think maybe they did sort of more just appear somewhere in the audience , right like take their chances running by fans or something , but there's a safer way for the artist and for the audience to get closer and they they worked on perfecting that idea you know , so very cool , very .
Speaker 2Yeah , it also had . Well , it also depends of money and the production and you know , because that costs money . That's why you have the tiers .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2But it will be great to do that . I'm all for it . I'm all for it .
Music Industry Evolves Over Time
Speaker 1Well , like the old days , but if you want to be with your , friends , you know like are you going to be separated ?
Speaker 1Well , not if you're buying like a block of tickets , because okay and that's another thing is they've changed it you used to be able to buy like eight tickets at a time . A lot of promoters and and venues and stuff are like four ticket limit . So you know , if you have five friends who want to go , you can't get seats together . Right , you can buy four . Or you know you'll have five friends who want to go , you can't get seats together . Right , you can buy four . Or you know you'll have to do three and two and hope for the best .
Speaker 1But yeah if it were back to the lottery , you could buy 12 . You just want to be seated together and you know same price for everybody . Have the big production that they do and that way you still got a good view .
Speaker 2You still get exactly get to see the artists exactly you know , huh girl , you give me ideas , but you know it should be that way . It should be that way definitely well , you can have still . You have your vip , but that's a well , and that was a .
Speaker 1That was a whole different thing too . Yeah , like I never knew how people the people I knew who got vip were people who had another type of connection .
Speaker 2Yeah , already right . Yeah , the vips were more for the you know , the radio , commercial radio stations and like yeah industry people .
Speaker 1Well , like I said with the nikon box , it was a perk because I went to school with the daughter of an executive for a major cola company and she was always getting perfect prime package seats to go see concerts . That , like the rest of us were like , yeah , we're way up in the rafters , but because of her father being connected , she was getting , you know , front row and she got to go backstage . I was like and I wasn't good enough friends with her to be part of that , right man .
Speaker 2Okay , yeah , we always knew that friend . We always knew a friend that it was like that , or an acquaintance Like , oh , so-and-so blah , blah , blah , you know like , yeah , like people who work for Bacardi , oh , my God , yeah , the mom and dad work for bacardi , blah , blah , blah , blah and this and that and menudo was there and this and something like that . So it's a good thing that my mom actually did make friends with one of the members . Mom , so that's , I got my own perks , okay . So I was able to say , well , I was at the backstage for the cuomo , yeah yeah anyways .
Speaker 2Yeah , I did . I was able to flaunt that when I was a kid . I want that more . It's awesome though , uh anyways . So on this weekend , uh ok h , I celebrated uh west 10th anniversary yes have you heard or seen the new video ?
Speaker 1no , okay , it's like different it's dramatic . Well , I told you yeah , a very hectic crazy I was able to um leading up to this weekend .
Speaker 2So I did that . After dinner , I was able to see it and I was like , wow , plus , thanks to the fans , there's new . Okay , so the fit . Remember I was like I wasn't sure they were still called jasmines or not . Oh yes , so this is one of the fans said that west are not calling them jasmines anymore , but in their hearts they're jasmine . They're just not gonna call them Jasmines anymore , but in their hearts they're Jasmines . They're just not going to call them Jasmines , so they don't know yet if they're going to get a new fandom name .
Speaker 2Exactly so they were saying you can call each other Jasmines if you want , but we're no longer going to call you Jasmines , which of course it's the whole transition with the company .
Speaker 1That's a name that goes with that , the yeah , the association is exactly got a different meaning , so I can at this point yeah , I understand the groups , not philosophy , but you know , telling them about why they're no longer gonna call well , it's kind of a philosophy yeah , you know , just their their feelings about it .
Speaker 1If they're progressing as a group of artists and to sort of disassociate from that negative feedback that was happening , they want to also allow their fans to progress and find a new name together maybe so interesting that'll be cool and you know they're .
Speaker 2The fandom should be very lucky because 10 years they're all still together . Yes , not like my poor sexy zone now , timeless , but it has dissolved slowly . But you know , in sexy zone , timeless were together for you know 12 years , if not more . Of course , the same thing with West . They're probably been together longer than that because you gotta remember junior years . So that's great . So congratulations to West for their 10th anniversary and the fans . We are so lucky that this group is still around after 10 years . Yes , definitely .
Speaker 2Hopefully they're following arashi's footsteps while they stay together that long , you know ? Yeah , you got um . We have now super eight . They've been a lot longer , though , right , they've been around .
Speaker 1Yeah , uh , 2006 , seven , I can't remember when they , because they a group , but they've gone through changes . Yeah , I mean there were eight .
Speaker 2Right , I love . Yeah , that was the name eight which yeah , so Musically they have change evolved Mm-hmm , yeah , yeah and yeah well , it is hard to sort of maintain .
Speaker 1A lot of groups that even we grew up with went through changes . They eventually came back together . But you know , things happen , things change . You know , yep , like Duran Duran , you were watching that documentary .
Speaker 2Yeah , when you were not in the room . I won't say where you were , but uh , they were gonna start talking about the turmoil .
Speaker 1Yes , um , that's what I said , oh my god , you know they , they were together for years . They sort of split up and went all their separate ways and then they did get back together again . Briefly . Yeah , something more personal happened and one of the members had to leave , but they had finally , like , resolved and got back together .
Speaker 2Right , if you have netflix , go check it out , if you know , if you're part of that . But uh , yeah , I'm starting to , I'm in the middle of it , when , when things are , you know , hitting the fan , you know things were happening like , and , of course , at the high peak of their , you know popularity , you know that's usually when exactly when the proverbial fit hits the shant especially back in like the 70s and 80s .
Speaker 2It's like you see it , you know , like all these artists get to that point and it's like , yeah , drugs , alcohol , addiction , of this addiction that they're getting caught with something and they blah , blah , blah and it's like what happened . You go hey , why are you ? Well , you get the stress and you have the contract company . You have to do this by this time and you got no time for this . You know , you got crazy fans everywhere .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's suddenly yeah suddenly your life's not your own . No , you know , and that some people can power through it , some people can't . So you see it everywhere yes , definitely everywhere . It's been happening for , yeah , years , decades so the few that can manage to work through it all , and even even all of those groups . You know there had to be something at some point . Things got a little tense , you know oh yeah , ara , she talked about it in their documentaries . Oh yeah , june was like I was going to .
Speaker 2Same thing with Sexism . Fuma and Kenty , there's something always . You know those two , the bettas , I was calling them . The bettas Don't get along with each other . They gotta be there . But it's kind of separated . But you know , yeah , it happens . Yeah , like you said , arashi too you know , you've just .
Speaker 1You're talking about individuals . Everybody has their own personality and you don't always fit , you don't always click you know there would be , yeah , disagreements there .
Speaker 2Yeah , same thing with buck tick . I , yeah , I remember reading something with buck tick , you know , and clashing heads of like , well , how come you can't , you know , play this in this chord or whatever , and it's like yeah .
Speaker 1Why are you changing that ? What do you ?
Speaker 2exactly like I don't like that tone or I don't like that tempo . And how come you're that slow ? You know it happens , shoes , but you know , yeah , congratulations to west 10 years awesome fans are .
Speaker 1Yeah , you guys are lucky you , you guys are lucky anyways moving on anything else , you have the real k drama no , like I said , that's biggest thing , but I don't really want to . I feel like it's turned into such a mishmash of things going on and rumors flying and accusations . It's like what's really happening , what's really true ? It's crazy because again , we are relying on translations of yeah things and we've seen , you know , look at us with trying to translate lyrics .
Speaker 1we're like this makes no sense oh my god and people read things differently and there's there's slang and colloquialisms that mean something different from translator to translator , and you know . So it's like , hmm , what really got said ? Because , sometimes it is as off the wall as it sounds , but sometimes it's just somebody used the wrong word , it had two meanings and they picked the wrong one , and so now suddenly you have . You know well , that was just what , so exactly . So we're afraid to touch this one , even with a 20-foot pole , because , yeah , that's why we were talking , and concryptedly yeah , the , the cryptic , yeah , enigma we're gonna leave it it's sort of a mystery right now .
Speaker 1We'll wait , wait to see what really comes of it all exactly oh , uh , oh .
Speaker 2Family was like I don't know , they were playing with their uh with their spotify account . They're sometimes like to do like go play whatever , and then a lark and seal song comes up . They're like , hey , I kind of like this and I'm like , really so they're looking it's like it's lark on sale . Then I hide them like yes , it's hide . Well , it sounds different . I'm like , yeah , that's a different side of hide . So , speaking of hide , uh-huh , he actually is gonna come out with a new album . Oh , wow , I know it's so funny that that they okay . So that whole larkin seal happened . And then later on I found out about this new uh album that he's coming out with .
Speaker 1Interesting so you know , I've seen him like uh pictures of him talking with various artists all over , so I I was wondering , I'm like , is he working with other ? People or is he getting people to work with him ?
Speaker 2so so I found out that hide will be releasing an album titled Hide Inside this summer Interesting title . Okay , oh , he's already okay . So I'm reading this article from Tokyo Hive . So there's details on the new album will be revealed later . The title of Hide's upcoming tour has been confirmed to be Hyde Inside Live 2024 . He has even , uh , added new dates to the tour , which can be seen below . Okay , let me see . So he already . He's already doing a already scheduled a tour for a non-existent album or release .
Speaker 1Well , well , the album's probably already and he's just gonna start touring as soon as he releases
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Speaker 1it .
Speaker 2Oh , my goodness , so we can start on june 22nd and zip haneda . He has three dates there , no four . Then on july 4th he's 14 he's going to sapporo , then nagoya see osaka , osaka , miyagi , fukuoka and then other in hyogo so so far just japan just japan okay that's fine .
Speaker 1Well , we'll see , we'll see .
Speaker 2We'll see he might come here he likes to do that , so we'll see . All right , anyways . So that's , that's it for news girl . Yeah and uh , you know demands and rambling let's go have some fun .
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