Music Business Drama Unveiled

The complexities of music industry contracts take center stage as the Seoul court grants Ador's injunction against NewJeans, effectively blocking the group from independent activities under their "NJZ" rebranding. This ruling reinforces a fundamental truth about entertainment contracts—they can't simply be abandoned unilaterally. The stark contrast comes with A.C.E's amicable separation from Beat Interactive, where the company made the unusual decision to allow the group to retain their name and content rights post-contract, describing it as "departing from conventional industry practices."

The music scene buzzes with tour announcements G-Dragon unveils PHASE 1 of his "Ubermensch" world tour beginning in Tokyo, while GOT7's Jay B prepares for his first US solo tour "Tape Re:Load" with stops in six major cities—though Boston fans are left disappointed once again. Festival season approaches with Lollapalooza Chicago featuring TWICE, Fujii Kaze, and KATSEYE, while J-Hope continues his festival presence at Lollapalooza Berlin.

Beyond music, Snow Man's Shota Watanabe ventures into horror films, playing an aspiring performer investigating haunted locations for social media fame only to encounter genuine supernatural phenomena. Meanwhile, STARTO Entertainment takes significant legal action against ticket resellers, identifying individuals reselling concert tickets and revoking their fan club memberships—sparking our passionate discussion about ethical ticket reselling practices and why the current system hurts both artists and fans.

We envision a better approach where resale platforms would maintain original ticket pricing plus reasonable service fees rather than allowing unlimited markups. After all, when shows appear "sold out" but venues remain partially empty because resellers couldn't move overpriced tickets, everyone loses—especially the performers looking out at empty seats.

What do you think about the New Jeans ruling? Have you experienced the frustration of inflated resale tickets? Share your thoughts and join the conversation!

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:21

Welcome everybody to another episode of Music Elixir with me Sarah Ann, miss Panic, miss Panic again, all right.

Speaker 2 0:31

Before we start doing our you know talk, our blah-blahs for today's Rants and Rambling, I do want to make a correction from the last Rants and Rambling where I said for the Weaver's Con. I said $1,500 and it's supposed to be $15,000, because I'm always like $1,500? No, that's too tiny. I saw it wrong. No, I said it wrong.

Speaker 1 0:57

It's $15,000. That's alright. If people looked they'd know, I know.

Speaker 2 1:03

I would like to correct myself, because when I was hearing it back, I'm like oh, that's not it, lady, we don't make a correction, so I'll make a correction.

Speaker 1 1:14

I'm sorry If I realized too, I could have. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:17

I know Sarah is like no, I was like okay, but this time you did. You just let me talk you. She was probably getting ready for something else.

Speaker 1 1:31

Yeah, well, you know I was thinking about because I'm like well, they've been doing the weverse con, because I also said well, I know they did it last year. I guess they've been doing it since like 2021 or 2020 I mean it's been a while, it's a few years. I just my only purpose for Weverse was BTS, so I never really paid attention to the other part. Oh geez.

Speaker 1 1:57

Well, I mean when I joined it with the purpose of BTS related stuff Me too it was much smaller. They've taken on all kinds of artists now are part of weverse, which is, yeah, really good. They're expanding and trying to, you know, right, grow their, their base and stuff. And yes, it's just crazy, though I know it's.

Speaker 2 2:22

I did the same thing too. Yeah, I did. And then pandemic happened and I was like I'm not gonna renew my membership because I don't know what's going on. You know and and and that those were dark times because there were like new companies and then all of a sudden close the company. So, like I was thinking, is that gonna happen to them? Yeah, like it was so uncertain, like we were happy about that company, you know weavers being, and then bts having this whole fan club, fan club thing. But then pandemic happened and it was like, oh my god, what's gonna happen? Are we gonna be losing things? And I'm like, well, I don't want to spend any money too, because well, I, I continued to, just in case, just because I had hopes.

Speaker 2 3:07

I was like I need my money. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 3:11

I don't know so yeah, oh man so anyways, okay, let's date stamp today I was gonna say date stamp, it's March 22nd 2025.

Speaker 2 3:27

Just in case.

Speaker 1 3:30

So, yeah, we're going to be talking about some news in the J-pop and K-pop world, and one of the biggest ones came out yesterday.

Speaker 2 3:40

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 3:43

Yeah, definitely. Well, and this was something we sort of we've talked about before and we made not necessarily predictions, but educated guesses as to the outcome. Yeah, anybody would be surprised by this news that the court granted a Doors injunction to prohibit new jeans from independent activities under their NJZ. Because, if you've heard previous episodes we talked about, that's all well and good, trying to rebrand yourself, but it's not really rebranding when you're using sort of acronym. That's exactly what your company's already been using. And we had also talked about, like, you don't get to just say we're done with our contract, we're doing our own thing now. It doesn't work that way. If you have a contract, exactly, there's routes you got to take. Both parties have to agree. They took it to court and obviously the result was that the court sided with their company a door yeah, exactly, you're buying to this contract to whatever date it expires, and we don't even know when expires I know it's, it's, it's not like a phone company that you just like.

New Jeans Legal Battle Outcome

Speaker 2 5:05

Yeah your plan is over, like in a year, you know yeah, no, they're usually probably like five years minimum yeah, they gotta make their money back. Yes, they do, and I don't know how they're gonna be making their money back with the girls, because there's no activities for them.

Speaker 1 5:21

Well, Well, they did make a statement. There was a separate article this was all news on Soompi. Adore did make a statement about continuing here. Wait, let me see where it is. Hello, this is Adore. We deeply appreciate the wise judgment of the court in the provisional injunction case. As Adore's status as the agency of New Jeans has been legally confirmed, we will fulfill our responsibilities in supporting the artists moving forward. We also plan to provide full on-site support to ensure that the weekend's ComplexCon performance proceeds under the name of New Jeans, represented by Adore. This was an event that has already happened, or it will have already happened, I should say. They continue. Adore sincerely hopes to meet with the artists soon and have an honest conversation. We earnestly ask for your warm support and encouragement for New Jeans as they continue to grow together with Adore. Thank you. So they already are saying that they're going to provide support for the girls and get them whatever activities they need to grow as artists and a group. It was an ongoing thing and, like I said, we talked about it.

Speaker 2 6:44

We sort of knew what the outcome was gonna be so it would have been a miracle if they would have, you know, right side it with the group. But uh, no, unfortunately the girls, uh, lost this one. Good luck to them. Just do what you can right now under this contract and just hope for it to be over soon so you can continue doing something else.

Speaker 1 7:10

The girls had a pretty lengthy response to it. This article is also still in Soompi. They're going to respect the decision but they don't have faith in their company Adore, because, like I said, it's a very lengthy response. So just from their first few statements, that's the gist of what they're saying is they will adhere to the court's decision but they're not happy, and we've known that. They've stated that the whole reason this problem came about is they have not been happy and they haven't felt represented or respected. So you know, we'll see how this progresses over time with the company.

Speaker 2 7:56

I know, also in the K-pop news recently, the company, the entertainment company or the label that had ace, has actually dropped the group. Oh really, yes, they're no longer uh with that company.

Speaker 2 8:11

Now, of course, hold on now I gotta find it I saw the article yesterday and I'm like, ah, dang it. I like I'm gonna be missing it. But just a quick blurb before I can find the article. Or, if sarah can find the article, was it a Soompi article? Make that? That was on X Twitter under the company. They made us an announcement, but the good thing is that, yes, they're no longer with the company, but they are giving the group the name Ace. So they can continue either by themselves as a company I'm just thinking I've I gotta find the article or they can just go, but they'll find another, maybe another entertainment company and beyond that. So that's good. So fans are kind of like yay, and they're like, well, let's go, boys, we'll help you out, you know well, and that's sort of the flip side of what New Genes is dealing with.

Speaker 1 9:04

Like this was the company saying we're going to terminate all activities, whereas with New Genes the company does not want to terminate and that's sort of the whole who has the rights to everything. When the company came up with your group name, they've got the rights. So there have been a couple of groups, though, that managed to get out of things at the right. So there have been a couple of groups, though, that managed to get out of things you know, I think adore because new jeans is their biggest sort of uh, provider, income maker. My, my computer is not cooperating, so I can't find the article you're talking about. Okay, were you able to find?

Speaker 2 9:42

it. I found it okay. This is, uh, it's very tiny and I can't read.

Speaker 2 9:47

I cannot read it but anyways, it's on x twitter. It was actually. The announcement was made on march 21st at 3 am in the morning, eastern standard time. This is the I'm gonna. This is the translated uh version short version-Twitter from their Ace account. It says hello, this is Bit Interactive.

Speaker 2 10:11

We would like to inform you that our exclusive contract with Ace has ended. I would like to express my sincere gratitude to all the fans who have shown endless love. The fans who have shown endless love. Details about domestic and japanese fan clubs and other related services will be announced later. Thank you, but the letter that I want to, let me see if I can find it on my phone, because I can't. It's so tiny I can't read it. But in there, when I saw quickly, uh, the company said that they were actually giving the name of Ace to them and they were not going to take it back, which is, you know, that's just good, because they just came out with an album. What? Last year, a few months ago, it wasn't too long ago Piñata, which we talked about, it right?

Speaker 1 11:01

No, actually I don't think we did, no, no, we did not. Okay, I thought we did. Okay, let me see. Is this the the hello? This is bit interactive. Would like to inform you that our exclusive contract with ace has ended. Was that what you were looking for, or were you looking for a letter from ace? No, okay, it was bit interactive on. X was saying we would like to express sincere gratitude to all the fans who have shown endless love. Oh my God, the letter is tiny.

Speaker 1 11:36

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm blind as a bat and I can't see it. First and foremost, we would like to express our heartfelt gratitude to Choice, the fans who have loved and supported Ace. We hereby inform you that our exclusive contract with Ace will officially come to an end as of March 31st 2025. After thorough and thoughtful discussions with the members, both parties have mutually agreed to not extend the contract and to conclude our management responsibilities. Departing from the conventional industry practices, we have decided to allow ACE to freely continue using the group name and related content without any conditions, so that their journey as ACE may continue seamlessly.

Speaker 2 12:24

Wow, I like what that sentence when when they said departing from conventional industry.

Speaker 2 12:31

you know practices yeah, this is true when the man you know it's, this is the company name, is is, is letting them go and also the name is unusual, yeah, it is. So I think that, just like you know what you know, thank you guys just you know you can get going, we'll give you that name. You know you. You already have a band fandom and maybe they just have seen from the past when other groups have left other companies and it's like no, it's our name. Remember when we were like, oh my god, gd was gonna happen with gd I know right.

Speaker 2 13:04

No, we'll give you his name but you know big bang is our name, you know, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 13:12

So you don't get to be big bang, but you can keep gd exactly.

Speaker 2 13:15

Well, also, that's so funny because of the whole new jeans thing. So they're like, oh, just give it to them you know, like new, like new jeans it's like no, we're doing it.

Speaker 1 13:24

You know, yeah, yeah, they cannot.

Speaker 2 13:26

But of course it's a different thing because they have a contract that they need to fulfill. They ended the contract, but then it's like not just only the contract, but we'll give you the name so you can continue, maybe with another company which is cool, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 13:42

Maybe with another company, which is cool, yeah, yeah. If you continue to read the letter, they're talking about how it was a very sort of intimate relationship that the artists and the management had anyways, like not romantically intimate, just they were very close, they worked together for mutual goals and all of that and they're just it seems like a very amicable breakup. Let's just say, together we faced numerous challenges, but our shared trust and relentless efforts helped us shape Ace's one-of-a-kind musical identity. With every trial and triumph we dreamed of the future side by side. So they worked well together. It's just obviously something's going on that they can't continue supporting each other, right?

Ace Group Contract Termination

Speaker 2 14:31

Wow, but you know. But hey, it was, I guess, a good breakup. It wasn't a messy breakup, right, it's just like they just parted ways. That's cool. Yeah, definitely no messiness going on in there it weighs.

Speaker 1 14:48

That's cool. Yeah, definitely, no messiness going on in there, no yeah, no backstabbing undermining each other's authority. Nice clean. We're stepping back from each other, so that's hey you know. Very cool here. What else have we got? We got your, your boy. I Am Monsta X. Yeah, Making a comeback. Yeah, March 21st releasing the upcoming digital single Don't Speak, with a mysterious logo. Motion video Interesting, oh, hey, yeah, you know. Looking forward to the book.

Speaker 2 15:22

You know looking forward to it. Yeah, oh my God. Looking forward to the book. You know looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 15:26

Yeah, oh my god set to drop on march 28th. The upcoming single marks his solo return in approximately a year, since his previous album off the beat, which was very good. We talked about that, we talked about him, we went and saw him, so we do have a concert experience.

Speaker 2 15:45

Yes, we do.

Speaker 1 15:47

The. I Am Off the Beat. Please check that out, yeah.

Speaker 2 15:51

And speaking of solo concerts, jb from GOT7 just announced a tour what? Of course not coming to Boston, that's right, you know. Not coming to boston, that's right, you know. Reading again from soompi uh, the news that actually came out today actually got sevens jb gearing up for his first solo tour of the united states. On march 21st local time, jb officially announces his plans for his first ever US tour. Tape Reload I know this is his first, yeah, because I don't think he had done anything over here. So JB will kick off his tour in Los Angeles on June 2nd before performing in Atlanta Atlanta, what? On June 4th, then san francisco on june 6th why he's going from.

Speaker 2 16:50

He's going back and forth wow, from west coast to east coast and then houston. Uh, then he goes to chicago. Man, chicago's getting them all now. Um, and washington dc a few, a few, actually stops in the united states. No new york, no new york, they're going to chicago, he's going to chicago well, that's a pretty like.

Speaker 1 17:15

I've noticed that sort of the set cities are new york, chicago yeah, everybody does those Right. So Atlanta's been a new one, because even P1 Harmony had gone to Atlanta and DC. So that seems to be if they don't do New York, they do. Although P1 Harmony came to Boston, I know they did New York too, but they came to Boston.

Speaker 2 17:49

Exactly, and it was loud. We're going to stress that.

Speaker 1 17:51

People need to start adding Boston, boston, boston to their schedules. But yeah, no, chicago's been pretty steadily a stopover for a lot of people. Yeah, chicago's been pretty steadily a stopover for a lot of people.

Speaker 2 18:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1 18:08

Especially because of the whole Lollapalooza thing. Artists have been there. They know it. Yeah, like it's a great city, it really is. Just in the middle of summer it ain't so great. Been there.

Speaker 2 18:21

Done that. Well, now that you said Lollapalooza, you want to go ahead and make that announcement. I don't have that article with me, oh you don't Go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 1 18:27

So there's a few artists, Asian artists, who are going to be at Lollapalooza, Chicago. One of them is one of our faves, Fujikaze.

Speaker 2 18:40

That wow is just so cool when I saw that announcement from their staff.

Speaker 1 18:45

I'm like what Congratulations.

Speaker 2 18:48

I mean these festivals will bring the artists more fans. Yes, exactly, you know they never heard of you. So if they're around in the vicinity and they get to hear you, that's awesome. And you know you get more fans that way. But besides, fujii K kaze we also have twice is gonna be in there. Um, as well as, if I can find that article, do you have more people in there?

Speaker 1 19:15

well, they've got the, the full listing. Tokyo hive announced the twice in fuji kaze joining. That was a couple of days ago. They've got the whole list here. I'm trying to look through real quick and see all the names that we might recognize. Cat's Eye is going to be there. I'm probably missing because I'm trying to look real quick.

Speaker 2 19:36

I know you're going real quick. I know me too.

Speaker 1 19:38

Let's see, alright. So with our quick glance, the only ones I see for sure are twice Fujikaze and Cat's Eye. However, we do also know that J-Hope is going to be doing Lollapalooza Berlin. Bts's J-Hope and Ivy are to perform at the Lollapalooza Berlin, which is going to be July 12th and 13th at the Olympic Park and the Olympic Stadium. So that's pretty cool too. You know he did the Lollapalooza in Chicago a few years ago before his military service. Obviously he enjoyed the experience. If he's willing to be part of the whole festival again, Was J-Hope ever at Coachella.

Speaker 1 20:33

No, just the Lollapalooza.

Speaker 2 20:34

Okay. For some reason I thought he also did Coachella. No, no, okay.

Speaker 1 20:42

No, I think though maybe you're confusing it with JK showed up at Coachella to watch people, I believe, or was that?

Speaker 2 20:58

Iba went to Coachella, I know.

Speaker 1 21:00

Like what I'm trying to keep track. Just imagine walking around and you see Iba next to you.

Speaker 2 21:09

I'll be like oh no, and start running.

Speaker 1 21:14

Anyways, yeah, that's some awesome stuff going on here. Why do I keep losing the articles? When is the Lollapalooza in Chicago? Is it the end of?

Speaker 2 21:29

July. I just had it and I just saw the day too.

Speaker 1 21:33

I know I had it too. It's like you look up one thing and the whole, it changes your whole.

Speaker 2 21:40

From July 31st to August 3rd.

Speaker 1 21:43

Okay, but that's cool, that's awesome. So congratulations, fujikaze. What else have we got? Did you have any other news?

Speaker 2 21:55

So this is actually. This is on Tokyo Hive and we need to find a better way to like, do this mic, because I'm like, oh, like, I feel like nino mea, I don't know how he can do it.

Speaker 2 22:10

The ottoman yoga. I can't do this. I'm not a bending enough. I guess I gotta do more yoga Anyways. So Stones has unveiled a special performance of Call Me from the MTV Unplugged Stones ahead of the release of their 14th single, Barrier, which actually I have been playing on OK Asia. This is just their voices. I have not seen the video yet yet, but the video is up there. Team stones are very happy for this. You know they'll send me messages. Did you panic? Have you seen this? Did you panic? And there's like I'm like I know I see that I just don't have time well, thank you very much everybody for like supporting your favorites.

Speaker 1 22:56

I like that we'll have to check that out. Check out the video and see what the hoopla is about. Oh, did you see our boy shota watanabe I was gonna tell you about that from snowman. It's gonna be the lead in a horror film another one from snowman doing a villain.

Upcoming Tours and Concert News

Speaker 2 23:17

Remember daisuke also, which we have not found. I would love to see that, but I don't know if I want to see daisuke that way. I know right, I'm like no, I don't know. But you know, yes, because we get to see how versatile they are as an actor and, well, as a performer. But yeah, shota um, come on horror film.

Speaker 1 23:39

It's going to be titled chico bukenzoku kawaii madori something green yeah, I was like yeah, the only thing I kawaii, because is it kawaii scary?

Speaker 2 23:58

is that the? Is it or is it support? No, or what?

Speaker 1 24:02

because kawaii is cute, but yeah kawaii.

Speaker 2 24:06

Kawaii is scary green, scary madori. Madori is green okay well, he's, let's see.

Speaker 1 24:15

They give a on tokyive. They have a quick little explanation. Wadanabe plays Yahiro Kuwata, an aspiring performer who moves from Fukuoka to Tokyo to chase his dreams, unexpectedly becomes a Jiko Bukun Sumemasu talent living in a haunted property to gain attention on TV and social media. As he investigates the eerie mysteries of each location, yahiro faces terrifying supernatural events and stumbles upon an unimaginable horror oh my god. Okay, yikes, that's gonna be interesting, so I guess he's.

Speaker 2 25:01

I don't like that type of movie. Family love them. I'm like I don't like that. How can you watch that? And they like to watch the Korean. Like for some reason, korean dramas love to do the zombie thing and there's like so many out there and they like to watch them. I'm like I don't like that. No.

Speaker 1 25:22

I don't mind. So this it seems sort of like. I guess he's one of those like to become a reality TV star, so he's going to haunted places to sort of be like hey, here I am in this supposed haunted place and it seems like things obviously are going to go a little wrong. He's going to have some not-so-pleasant experiences, Of course, Like I said, unimaginable horror. Exactly I might watch that, though I might.

Speaker 2 25:56

Well, it's a show about an hour, yeah.

Speaker 1 25:58

Well, I was going to gonna say it doesn't seem, from their you know, brief little description, doesn't seem like it's gonna be super, it's gonna be more like suspenseful, I think, horror as opposed to, you know, gory icky no, it's all right.

Speaker 2 26:14

I don't want to watch that. Not my thing.

Speaker 1 26:16

It's something I will not watch although there's, uh, one of the teasers has him experience, in one of his cursed locations, a blood-stained white hand appearing on his shoulder.

Speaker 2 26:29

So maybe it is going to be a little creepy, I don't know when japanese, I know, media make like horror, you know, or suspense, it's pretty creepy.

Speaker 1 26:44

Yes, because I have seen some that I'm like, oh my god, like no I watched the grudge in the middle of the day and then followed it with two comedy movies. Like I literally sat on my couch for six hours to watch the Grudge and then two other things to try and take my mind off of it.

Speaker 2 27:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1 27:06

And I still was like creeped out and freaked out when I got in the shower I was washing my hair and there's that scene, yeah, and I was like, oh my God, oh my lady, I know Like it was so in my head.

Speaker 2 27:18

Yes, I was also traumatized with that movie.

Speaker 2 27:24

I was like no, no, that's not for me. Why is it? No, it was another movie that I watched. There's like, oh, this one's really cool, blah, blah, blah. Let me see if I can find it. Um, oh my god, after seeing that one, one of my friends introduced me to a junji ito movie that I was like, uh, no, this is this is no, no and no. He is probably like. His movies are definitely categorized like prime horror, like it's. So I still have them in my head there's. It's just like there was one where, um, this town gets, I guess, possessed and they turn into snails, it's.

Speaker 1 28:24

I was like it's like those 60s movies with the giant rabbits or the big crickets.

Speaker 2 28:30

No, but this is like, but they turn into snails. Horrifying Really. There's one scene that I was like what in the world is it so? There's this um, I guess they get there's something in the air that dispossessed this town or is. The town is cursed. So there is this scene where I guess uh, I don't know if I forgot, I can't remember so it was a lady or the son of of this supposed to be a dad they open the washer machine and they see their dad twisted inside of this washing machine.

Speaker 2 29:12

Yes, you see this twisted like in a coil, like an of a snail oh weird. Yeah, that's why I was like oh my god. And then apparently, he filmed himself twisting inside of this washing machine. Weird, yes, girl, don't watch any of his movies. Oh, if you want to be traumatized, unless you like, it's Junji Ito he has. He's also an well, the base of his horror mangas. He's a manga artist.

Speaker 2 29:51

But, they have taken his mangas and turned it into movies. Okay, and yeah, these mangas are twisted like really, you know I, I you know friends of mine, you know they're like oh yeah, I love your manga. I'm gonna check out this and I'm like what is this? I'm gonna have nightmares.

Speaker 1 30:10

And yes, you're. You're more of the oran high school host club manga.

Shota Watanabe's New Horror Film

Speaker 2 30:14

Yes, I'm like, yo, this is not my kind of manga, you know. I like the, the reverse harem, you know, and the sweet candy, candy, you know, kind of like, yeah, no, I was like, I was like, well, I, I went with an open mind and then I was like, no, my mind's gonna be closed, I don't want this. So, junji ito artwork is it's you have, you probably, if you probably have seen t-shirts some people have t-shirts made out of his artwork if you see like a girl, like gothic looking girl with like spirals in their eyes or something like that. Oh, okay, that's, that's Junji Ito artwork, which you see. That you're like, well, that's kind of demonic and I'm like, yeah, it is. So, yeah, junji Ito, how can I forget that? But, yeah, I'm traumatized by his artwork. I can't, oh, man, yeah, I find it very demented. Anyways, why don't we talk about my children, timeless? Okay, so I guess a week ago, timeless launched their first variety show, timeless man. We talked about this. Well, we talked about that. They were going to do it right, or no?

Speaker 1 31:36

No, we talked about that. We did Specifically that article. Yeah, oh for real.

Speaker 2 31:41

Yeah, did they change the time?

Speaker 1 31:43

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the 25-25. And we were like we don't know what time that means, because I had been meaning to talk about their tour and I opened the wrong article and I was like, oh well, oh well, they're gonna do a variety show. So we did.

Speaker 2 32:03

we did manage to talk about that last time okay, let me see if they change the time, because yeah, yeah, no they never change it they never made the correction come on, talk your like. What the hell? What is like sundays at 25 25 standard time?

Speaker 1 32:23

yeah, we're like, I thought there were only 24 hours in a day, but we could be wrong okay what else have we got? Oh? Tokyo ska paradise Orchestra celebrates 35 years.

Speaker 2 32:39

Wow, I didn't know they were together that long.

Speaker 1 32:42

Yeah, yeah. So they've got a no Border Hits 2025 Back to 2001 album coming out, so like a Greatest Hits album coming out. Oh, it got released on March 19th, so just the other day.

Speaker 2 32:58

Awesome.

Speaker 1 32:58

oh, it got released on march 19th so just the other day, awesome spans, the band's illustrious career, features 51 tracks. Oh wow, taking up three cds. That's so cool, awesome, they're so much fun they are they did a great christmas tune a few years back.

Speaker 1 33:18

Excellent, wow, 35 years, amazing, congratulations. Tokyo Ska Paradise Orchestra Yay, what else news? On March 19th, g-dragon unveiled the dates and locations for Phase 1 of his 2025 world tour, ubermensch. He'll be kicking off in tokyo on may 10th and 11th and then he will be going to macau, taipei, kuala lumpur, jakarta and hong kong. So he's going to asia first. So he's yeah, he's kicking off in Asia. Well, I hope the world tour really goes worldwide and comes here Somewhere where we can see it Boston, G-Dragon, boston, come to Boston.

Speaker 2 34:13

Well, since Chicago's been on the map, it's going to be like what? Chicago, la, houston and Atlanta. We'll be like what? Completely the New England's like, no, like what.

Speaker 1 34:28

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 34:29

No, that's not fair. But anyways, gd, please come to Boston, please, please, please, please, yes, we love you here. Please. Baby metal's coming, oh really, to boston, to boston. And guess who's gonna be one of the openers? Bloodywood, oh really, yes, oh oh, we may have to do that. I think the tickets are already on sale and they're coming to, uh, fenway mgm wow, really.

Speaker 1 35:02

Yes, oh, we may be taking a break to go online and get tickets.

Speaker 2 35:09

I believe it's on a Wednesday. That's all right, I can manage that At least it's Boston Exactly.

Speaker 1 35:16

We can do that easily in a night.

Speaker 2 35:18

So it's going to be awesome. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. We have not seen these girls at all. No, and then Bloody Woods coming what? Okay, so back to StarTor Entertainment.

StarTor's Fight Against Ticket Resellers

Speaker 2 35:30

I found the actual announcement from StarTor Entertainment. I found the actual announcement from StarTor Entertainment. This is regarding this. I'm going to be reading the translated version of their site on this. So this is the requesting disclosure of caller information from ticket resller sites. So StarTor Entertainment is working with Young Communications Company, which organizes concerts in which their contracted talent appears to take various legal steps against the resale of concert tickets from our contracted talents through ticket resale of concert tickets from our contracted talents, uh, through tickets resales sites, and we would like to provide an update on this. Oh, remember, I think it was last year they were made the announcement to they were working on cut the shit on this.

Speaker 1 36:29

Yeah, yeah, finding.

Speaker 2 36:30

Excuse my French because you know so, on December 13 of 2024, we filed a petition with the Tokyo District Court, with YC as a petitioner, against the operation company of Ticket Jam, seeking an order to disclose sender information. This petition covers 17 listings and, in parentheses, a post that resold snowman concert tickets. Through this core procedure, information on all 17 cases was disclosed and multiple people who had been reselling tickets were identified. We have sent notices to these people, jointly signed by our company, nyc, and have taken measures to have them withdrawn from the fan club one by one. These were fan club members. Hey, remember they were talking about, like you know, j-hope, like some of this, probably fan club from Weverse they're taking it to, like you know, get some money back.

Speaker 1 37:45

Yes.

Speaker 2 37:46

Mm-hmm. Oh, your fan club has been revoked. Okay, this feels so good. Okay, we are considering pursuing legal responsibility.

Speaker 2 38:03

In parallel that on February 14, 2025, we filed a petition with the Tokyo District Court, with YC Company as the petitioner, against the management company of Ticket Jam for an order to disclose sender information regarding 1,589 cases of reselling Snowman concert tickets. Yo Yo, the management company refused to disclose all cases in response to voluntarily disclosed requests before the court proceedings. And when a disclosure request was received, it was found that the company did not consult with the seller parenthesis, sender as required by law, so we were forced to file a petition for a disclosure order with the court. Last time, however, when the court proceedings began, the company's attitude changed to one of disclosure and the result was that it only burdened the court with unnecessary hearings and date adjustments. Come on, yeah, now you'll be like no, no, we'll give you the information.

Speaker 2 39:40

Don't go through that. You know so in this case as well, if information about illegal listings posts have been disclosed in advance, the situation will not have required more than a thousand petitions to be filed with the court. The attitude of not taking any actions unless on actions, unless court proceedings are initiated regarding issues that could be resolved through reasonable efforts by the partisan parties involved, place an unnecessary burden on the court, leads to a waste of limited court resources and is not socially desirable. We intend to call for improvement in the management company's response. In cooperation with YC, we intend to continue to take thorough measures against illegal ticket reselling so that tickets can be distributed in a fair manner to as many fans as possible.

Speaker 1 40:49

Ha? Well, exactly because even fan club members miss out on it, you know when they're supposed to have, like you, join the fan club to have these special privileges, perks, exactly.

Speaker 1 41:02

That's why you're paying a monthly fee right or a yearly fee yeah and so if other fan club members are buying extras to sell off to you know, make money back other people who really want to see them and are in the fan club and should have been able to get a ticket, couldn't you know? And not that the world is fair, but sooner or later karma's gonna get you exactly.

Speaker 2 41:30

You know it's not fair, not fair. This is what happens when you want to get greedy. You get greedy. Sooner or later you're gonna pay. And guess what you're gonna pay? And double, maybe triple of what you.

Speaker 1 41:42

You know what you did because I mean, there's nothing wrong with, like, one friend having the membership and buying four tickets to share with other friends who want to see the group. But yeah, when you're, you know limit four or six, you know, depends on the concert, depends on the the group, but you buy your max limit so you can sell off the extras, that's you know, yeah, that's just a little. Yeah, shady it is.

Speaker 2 42:11

You know, that's what happens when you become greedy. That's what happens when you know gluttony gets you, because you know that's that's how you are gluttonous, let's say, if it's just like oh, I'm just gonna go by myself, but then I'm gonna buy four tickets, you know, and then resell the other three, so then I have more money, I can you know merch.

Speaker 1 42:30

You know we all want more money for merch.

Speaker 2 42:33

But or just or not even go to the show and just pay for something else. Yeah, still, no, it's no, that sucks. And then you're reselling your ticket for who knows how much money, because you're not gonna be reselling them for the same face value, because nobody's doing that.

Speaker 1 42:51

No, they are not like you said, as we saw with the j-hope and even with that, like people were dropping prices because they realized, you know, other fans were not going to pay that much for obstructed view.

Speaker 2 43:05

You want to see the artist if you're going to the show, plus, it was getting down the wire and people were just like.

Speaker 1 43:11

Now I have these two extra tickets. I've got to get something for them.

Speaker 2 43:16

It's not a bad idea to have resellers. It's just it's a bad idea for putting not the correct amount. If you are going to resell your ticket, please make it at the face value. Resell your ticket. Please make it at the face value. If you pay 50 bucks for it, you can't make the show, you know. Resell it for the same amount that you pay for.

Speaker 1 43:39

Right $50.

Speaker 2 43:40

Not freaking $1,000 for a $50 ticket.

Speaker 1 43:45

Yeah, when we know the seats were originally $74 that they were selling. And you're selling it for $17. That's not no, it's, and that was you know sort of a minimum that people were reselling them for well remember when casa came to new york, oh yeah, that was a fiasco it was just two front row tickets.

Speaker 2 44:10

That we know very well. They weren't two grand. They were selling them each like two grand yeah, are you freaking, kidding me. Even kase got mad and he posted on his instagram please do not pay ridiculous prices, yeah don't, because he knows very well.

Speaker 1 44:28

It's like yeah don't, don't even.

Speaker 2 44:30

It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 44:31

And then think about what that. I mean they're still making money, but then the artist goes in to perform their show and sees like hundreds of empty seats because you couldn't sell those tickets that you were trying to resell, because you were asking a ridiculous amount of money, exactly like because that happened actually. Um, for the last rock stars it was sold out. Yeah, they added another night that sold out, but I was at one night of the shows. I couldn't go to both, but the night I was there, I don't know, a quarter of the seats were empty. Yeah, and there was specifically floor tickets and then the seating seating, so it wasn't like you could go from the balcony down onto the floor because if your ticket wasn't a floor, you didn't get to go exactly.

Speaker 1 45:21

So I was just like what happened? These were sold out and now it was also, I guess, an incredibly cold, like unseasonably cold, february for us. It was, I don't know, with the wind chill, it was like minus 27 down there. So maybe people just didn't go because it was dangerous to be outside waiting in the line to get in. But still, you know, you got to figure a lot of those people were also just resellers who didn't manage to sell the tickets. So, you know, think about your artists. If you're a fan of these people, you want people who want to see the artist, seeing the artist.

Speaker 2 46:06

Exactly so. I'm putting it out there in the universe Okay, reselling sites, I see the value for it, but please, the face value of the ticket keep it the same. You know, if it's $50 of the ticket, make it $50. You are going to resell it for $50. That's it Right.

Speaker 1 46:28

Because, like, yeah, just think of it as if an emergency came up and you couldn't go to the show. Exactly, you could either give it to friends or you can try and resell it, but just resell it for what you bought it for.

Speaker 2 46:41

Exactly, you know Exactly, so you miss out on. You know on the, you know the tax and whatever you know, Well, all right, so no, add in the tax if you want to. You know, instead of 50, 53, 50, you know, no, if your ticket was 100. It should be resold for 100, you know, yeah, well, because think about, oh god, when, or 500, whatever it is. You know that is the real price, not at a made-up price.

Discussion on Ticket Resale Ethics

Speaker 1 47:07

Well, remember, we complained about this when all our shows were getting canceled because the pandemic, yeah, and all the refunds were only for the face value of the ticket, and I'm like they charge just as much in fees yes, as they do, and all they're giving us is the face value of the ticket.

Speaker 2 47:24

Exactly so it should be the same. If you are going to resell your ticket, well, I'm sure the reseller is like, well, it's gonna cost you like blah, blah, percentage to resell it in our side. I understand I'm sure the reseller is like, well, it's gonna cost you like blah, blah, percentage to resell it in our side. I understand, because you know the reseller wants to make some money, but still, yeah, it's just come on people. Yeah, you know it's like, and what was it that real that we saw from a? Um, some guy out in england like they wanted to see coldplay. Oh, no, oasis, oasis. And he's like what? What? This price is blah, blah, blah and they're reselling and blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 48:01

I'm so happy I forgot why I'm why he said, but it was funny and we're like. I feel you man well, we feel you guys gotta sell my house to go see oasis.

Speaker 2 48:11

Yeah, yeah, it's insane. So you know again, putting it out in the universe. You know, resell, resellers, please. You know, if the ticket, they know very well how much that was going on. Ticketmaster, because you know this is all. Ticketmaster. You know if it was a 150, whatever ticket, that's how much you're going to be selling it for. You want to make money? Yeah, use a percentage. Oh yeah, when you sell your ticket, this percentage is going to come out from your resale. You know.

Speaker 2 48:49

And you know, in the long run, if that ever happens, if there is a reselling company with morals, Good luck with that If there is a reselling company with morals that will say, hey, we noticed that ticket for J-Hope, this section, is originally $170.

Speaker 2 49:09

You cannot go over that. There is a fee if we do sell your ticket of I don't know three percent. You know, be aware that three percent will be taking out of that to help you resell that I, if there is one like that, just putting it out there, that that's how they make the business. I guarantee you that more people will be using that sign. They probably will make more money just because they know, like I'm not gonna be this. You know extortion. You know knowing very well that the the actual ticket is 170 and then I'll be buying it from 170 but you also will be getting a fee. You know, yeah, but it will not be like, oh, the 170 tickets now like 500, no, yeah I just it's.

Speaker 2 50:02

That's just me. Unfortunately, I don't have money to do a company like that. But I would love to do that like that where, like, yeah, we're here with a middleman, uh, yeah, the ticket is supposed to be 50, you cannot go over that. Uh, we'll be taking a fee to help you sell this out and, of course, the person who will buy it for you will take also we'll. We'll be charging a fee for them for actually making that transaction. That is the way it should be for a reseller. That is the way that I think that is positive, you know, positive.

Speaker 1 50:34

Oh yeah, no definitely.

Speaker 2 50:36

Just think the Superbowl thousands and thousands of dollars for a resale ticket there Like $4,000.

Speaker 1 50:47

Right.

Speaker 2 50:47

So if you're reselling it, dude, you know like it's $4,000 for the ticket that you know, know. So this is how much fee we're gonna. You'll still be making money as a reseller. If you just give a small fee, if you take out, you know percentage out of all that transaction, you'll still be making money. Again. Greed gluttony. They just like no, that's okay. They all know the reseller can put whatever amount they want. That's fucked up. Yeah, because at the end the reseller can put whatever amount they want. That's fucked up.

Speaker 1 51:14

Yeah, because at the end, the reseller makes a lot more money.

Speaker 2 51:17

But, come on, I don't know how scruples morals, you know and ugh, so I put it out there in the universe. I just hope that there's somebody out there with morals that will hopefully take this idea. Please, please, okay, thank you. All right, putting on my soapbox.

Speaker 1 51:47

All right, well, I guess we should end it here. Yes, we've talked a lot about. We always talk about tickets.

Speaker 2 51:53

We're always. We always put it here. Yes, we've talked a lot about it. We always talk about tickets, we always put it out there Because it's unfair, oh man, it's unfair to everybody, unfair. Thank you everybody for listening to this Rants and rambling. Could you please rate, review and share share, share. Please be kind to give us five stars, because we love our constellation and if you become a subscriber, I don't know, I'll keep doing more soapbox putting out their ticket rents.

Speaker 1 52:27

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Speaker 2 52:39

I know we're not like Nino, so flexible. All right Until next time. Bye-bye, bye-bye, johnny, until next time, bye bye, bye, bye, johnny.