Fashion, Fans, and Tour Talk

What happens when runway glamour meets real-life budgets and arena acoustics? We dive into the magnetic pull of idols in luxury campaigns—Cartier, Dior, Gucci, Tiffany—and ask the honest question: have you ever splurged on something just because your favorite artist wore it? From a pandemic-era discovery of ridiculously comfy OOFOS slides to the sticker shock of four-figure boots, we weigh inspiration against necessities, and share practical ways fans make it work: outlets, dupes, and choosing comfort without losing the vibe.

Our focus then shifts from closets to concert halls. We break down a timely tour landscape: P1Harmony’s last-minute Toronto postponement and a girl group’s ambitious North American run that finally stretches beyond the same eight cities. Boston shows up! Orlando shows up! Hamilton shows up! The bigger story? How this routing could become a model for other acts if fans fill seats across a wider map. We talk logistics, demand, and the ripple effect when promoters and labels see strong sell-through in markets that too often get skipped.

Production design gets a fan-first audit. Center stages, circular runways, and small satellite platforms can transform sightlines in 15–20k arenas, making nosebleeds feel seen without blinding them with relentless LEDs. We compare minimal, artist-forward builds to maximal spectacles that can overwhelm, and share examples—from U2 runways to Kylie’s mini-stage—where simple choices made massive rooms feel intimate. The takeaway is clear: prioritize the artist, the music, and the audience’s ability to actually see what they came for.

If you care about the intersection of music, fashion, and the live show experience, this is your map and measuring stick. Hit play, share it with a concert buddy, and tell us: what did you buy because an idol wore it, and what’s your ideal stage setup? Subscribe, rate, and leave a review so more fans can join the conversation.

Transcript

Fashion Weeks Spark a Question

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Welcome everybody to another episode of Music Elixir with me, Satershi and Ms. DJ Panic.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Today it's a ransom rambling.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Yes, it is. And actually, you know what? I didn't talk to you about this before because I wanted to sort of just spring it on you. Okay. You want to do it. Well, no, I was thinking, I was just because something that sort of came into my mind the other day, you know how it's all the oh my God, what the hell am I trying to say? You're trying to spring something at me, and you know the fashion houses are all doing their shows for the upcoming spring summer season and all that. Right. So there's been Fashion Week Milan and Fashion Week Paris. And you know I do actually love fashion stuff. You wouldn't know it because my wardrobe is mostly jeans and graphic or concert t-shirts. Like I have, you know, my coach pocketbooks and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16

The only fancy clothes I have are either leftover bridesmaids' dresses or that one, and it's the only name brand thing I own clothing-wise that's like fashion is Michael Kors dress that I had for our friend's daughter's Kinsenera.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Okay.

Music x Luxury: Influence and Access

SPEAKER_01 1:34

And I got that at a outlet. So it wasn't like I didn't pay full price for uh this outfit. But I do love fashion stuff, and I've loved seeing, especially in recent years, like in the 70s is when musical talents sort of started being blended with fashion. Right. Prior to that, it was like Starlit, you know, and mainly just models. But so I love seeing all our idols promoting this stuff. But like I can't afford Cartier, I can't afford Dior, Gucci, you know. And but it got me thinking because like, aside from the obvious buying tour merch, you know, merchandise that the band wears on stage and we're like, oh, so-and-so's t-shirt, I want that. I was thinking about, because with all of these fashion shows happening, you see a lot of people posting, like, I saved up all my money and I bought this special Cartier watch that uh, you know, V from BTS had worn in a shoot. Police. Or I saved up money and bought this Gucci shirt that so-and-so from whatever band bought. Yeah. Yamada's, you know, a spokesperson for Tiffany. Yeah. Like people are, and even Fuma talking about his mom couldn't buy the hand cream because Yamada was the spokesperson for this.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yamada was hugging at all. Come on. So everybody bought it.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

Everybody bought so my question is have you personally ever bought something? Doesn't even have to necessarily be high-end, but not like not like just the the gin ramen that we saw at the gin show. But like something sort of mid-range, clothing-wise or or shoes or anything that you saw one of your idols promoting that you were like, Oh, I'm gonna buy that because my idol wore it. Because how many people do do that? You know? Right. And like I said, I'm not talking like just the little hand creams or or the you know, like pieces of clothing, shoes, or like a purse or purse or jewelry or something.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Nothing. I can't afford none of that. Exactly. That's like I I have rents to pay, electricity, uh, car payment now.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

But you never because I know when Ono and Nino from Arashi, if if people aren't familiar, two members of Arashi were wearing these special sandals. They're orthopedic, good for you, like healthy shoes, but they're either they come in like slides, clog, or a flip-flop.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Okay.

The Idol Effect: What Fans Buy

SPEAKER_01 4:13

And they were wearing them during COVID, during pandemic, their last year. You'd see them doing all their little TikTok videos and stuff, wearing these, and it's a brand called Ufos. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say it, but that's what it is. Yeah. Wait, yeah. Just say Ufos. I know, right? I was throwing out Gucci and everybody else, so I may as well. I actually found a store here in Northampton that sold them. So I bought a pair of these. Okay. So yeah, that was the only time I was like So are they comfortable? Yeah, they are actually. Okay. They're they're sort of like um athletic like bath slippers kind of thing. Because they're rubber, you know, so you can wear them into like the shower after, sort of like the you know, Adidas ones and stuff. But it's okay. But they've got like a really good arch support, they're nice and cushiony, they're sort of angled almost like they are super comfortable, but it was just because I was like, Ono's got these things, I've gotta have them. I've got to need them to have a pair of these, I'm gonna get one. Well, and everybody knows how I feel about Ono's and I'm gonna be like, I'm looking at them right here. It's like I'm gonna I'm gonna try it out. So I went to the store and tried them on. Yeah, because I had never heard of them prior to seeing them on these guys. So I was like, so I Googled it, you know, are these things available here in the US? And sure enough, they are. And a store right here in Northampton have so I went over and I was like, oh, these are kind of comfy. Like, cool. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:44

What color are you getting?

SPEAKER_01 5:46

They're um, well, it's mostly black, but the strap over the front is pink.

unknown 5:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

So I didn't get the exact ones that they had. It was the same type of style. Okay. But this one had colors to it. So I was like, oh. What's the name? Ufos? Ufos. O-O-F-O-S. And this is the place here, it's one of those, um it it's sort of like an outlet also. It's a shoe outlet place. I actually I don't even know if it's still there because this was during pandemic and a lot of stuff disappeared. Oh. So if you look at their website, they're I guess sort of you would consider them like high-end price. Oh, I didn't get high-end price. They were less expensive.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Okay, I seen people wearing those. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Yeah. Okay. But the first time I'd ever seen them was on Nino and Ono. So that's why. Okay. So so that's a question for for all the people out there listening. Like, have you ever because, like I said, especially around fashion week, you suddenly see all these people posting things like, you know, I saw so-and-so from, you know, say Raul did the all those shows that he does, you know. Yeah. He was wearing this piece of jewelry from Tiffany. And so I saved up my money and I bought it. And I'm like, wow. You know, because people to like when Jin became the Fred, you know, I mean, that stuff's that stuff's expensive. And like some girl was like, I went all out and bought the big I was like, oh my god, you spent like the down payment on a house on this necklace. No, all right, no, maybe a down payment on a car, you know. But like, yeah. No. So I was just like, you know, how many fans?

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Because you hear about if you have the money, go for it. But I mean, I wouldn't like not pay something essential in my life, but just because I want to buy something that my I saw my idol wearing.

SPEAKER_01 7:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Well, that and that's the thing. I'm like, I may get a dupe somewhere. You know, knock-up. Or like I that that I will do. Like, I will do a fashion-inspired you know, outfit. You know, go to your chipper high-end, you know, like Marshall's or TJ Maxx over here. Well, you can find, you know, name brands, but and then try to find your bits and pieces of that outfit in stores like that. But I mean, I wouldn't know. I just I can't afford it.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

No, exactly. And like, plus a lot of times, as much as I like looking at the fashion, like I'm yeah, I think to myself, wow, that is so impractical. Like, that's weird. Why were you wearing? Yeah, it's not useful for anything. It looks nice, and it's like architecture. Sometimes it's nice to look at, but you're like, it's really, it's not very utilitarian. No. I need it to be useful and handy for day to day.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

The Burberry bags, I love those girl. Yeah, I will think I yeah, I will use those. But I mean, uh no, I can't pay for those.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Yeah, it's just but it was something I was thinking about because I was like, wow, you know, like as much as I sometimes look at things and I'm like, oh my god, I'd love to have that. I can't I can't justify.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Yeah, you see, but the thing is that you also oh my god, that looks so pretty and looks so simple. Then you look at the price tag, you're like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Well, you know, and you know how I am about shoes. Every time I look at like, oh, look at those boots like Yam Yam was wearing, and you look up where they're like twelve hundred dollar shoes.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

No, well, if you don't have photo shoot, you know that's just you know, a loner, you know, there he's being lying, you know, this is your outfit. We had curated for you, you know?

SPEAKER_01 9:35

Yeah, well, and that's usually the stuff they're wearing, is obviously donated, like Harry Winston jewels on the red carpet, they borrow them, but people do buy them.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Oh, jeez.

Affordable Alternatives and Dupes

SPEAKER_01 9:46

But yeah, so let us know, listeners. Have you ever gone a little crazy and bought something maybe a bit out of your normal if you have bought something that your idol has worn and you're like, I need to have not the small, simple stuff, not the like whatever drink and whatever ramen and whatever potato chip brand they clothing, shoes, or like a bag pricey colognes, you know, perfumes and colognes can be expensive. So have you just because your idol said they wore it, have you gone out and gotten it? Mm-hmm. Because yeah, no, they definitely they get to borrow it all, but when they say, so you can buy this for the low price of$2,000 boots? No, I don't think so. No, that's not no, thank you. Anyway, so it was just something that popped into my head the other day because of the whole fashion week thing. I was like, wow, every week's fashion week for the past however long. So that was our mostly ramble part. Any good news?

SPEAKER_00 10:57

Uh kind of bad news, but you know. Yeah. But, anyways, well, well, good and but there's a better news. This is uh this is now K-pop. So P1 Harmony postpones uh their concert in Toronto as a last minute. Apparently, there was a problem with the borderline and some power outage. Yeah. So I don't know what this is from Soom P and they made they reported on October 1st that FNC Entertainment announced that due to system outage at the Canadian US border, P1 Harmony Toronto's concert schedule for later that day as inevitably being postponed. But they actually after the entertainment company said what happened, they are going to reschedule. Yes. So just stay tuned. Toronto to uh a reschedule show for P1 Harmony, which um we were so lucky to see them in Boston. I know, right? That was a sold-out show. We talked about that many times.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Many, many times. One of our concert experiences, yeah. Exactly. It was a really good show, it was.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Also, a concert that when was this announced? I gotta look it up. But uh, do you have something to say before so I can start looking for this one?

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Oh well, I was gonna say um so have they been actually touring here in the US and they were gonna go up into Canada? Is that sort of they're supposed to go to Chicago, I wanna say, or they already play Chicago? A lot of artists do sort of bounce back and forth, but that's just weird. Uh because I was like an outage like, don't you just check the passport and make sure it's like the person in the photo? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

So they started their tour in uh Korea on August 9th. They went, they were sold, and there was Sydney, Singapore, Ko Sing, Macau, Yokohama, Newark, September 27th, also Virginia, then Toronto. Next will be Texas, Georgia, Illinois, and then California. We have LA and Oakland. Oakland.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Sorry. Oh, Oakland. Yeah, those are the main cities. Yeah. But we've got Girl Group Twice just announced that they're gonna be doing their world tour. They're actually coming to Boston.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

I know, they're going to the TV garden, girl.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

We are so excited about that.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Girl. I know I want to look that up because um someone heard us. We were like, come on, Boston. Come on, Boston. There are theories for this tour.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Theories, like as in they're the guinea pig to see what happens, or like whether other companies and artists are gonna think about expanding their horizons. Cause there was some you you had sent me a little uh video clip of a a guy talking about how everybody does the same eight cities, you know. And a lot of people have to travel far and wide.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

Oh my god, why is this so difficult? You know, when you want to look for something, it just never pops up. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

You know yes, I do know that. Well, is this in relation to twice, or is this something else you were looking for? Because I just brought up twice because I didn't know what article you were talking about. So I was like, I'm just gonna start rambling on.

Practicality vs. Runway Fantasy

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Well, I want to talk about twice, but do you know what pops up because we're talking about tours, and this is one person that we would love to see him on tour? Which one? One home. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's the uh He has plenty of dates, but not enough. Because he's not coming to Boston.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

No, he New York, right? Term like Terminal 5, I think he's gonna be in New York.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

So he's Toronto, New York, Washington, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Wow. Mm-hmm. Those are some of the same ones that a lot of people do, but the Atlanta well, because P1 Harmony did do Atlanta when they were last touring. I think so, yes. And like Jin did Miami. But that one's not usually on most people's lists. Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Miami's a new one, Atlanta. Wow. So, you know, like he that's a pretty extensive for Wano. Yeah, for solo. Right. I gotta look. I think it's on my phone. That's why. Okay, now I got bad bunny in my head. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Alright, so for twice, yeah, it was on my phone. It wasn't uh white X Twitter doesn't have it out there. All right. So yes, twice is coming. The dates? It's insane. Like, all right, glasses. This is when I have to take my glasses off because they don't work for this, yes. No, so we have Vancouver, BC, uh, Seattle, Oakland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Dallas, Washington, Belmont Park, New York, Philadelphia, Atlanta, uh, let's see, Montreal, Hamilton, Ontario, Orlando, Charlotte, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, St. Paul, Denver, and Austin. Wow. Yes. There's they don't even all over the place. But I never ever like, what is this town? I never heard of that. You know, and especially like Hammington, Ontario? Really? Wow. So there's a rumor or theory that the this tour for this girl group is well, I heard that from somebody that I'm following on Instagram. I wanna give him a shout-out, but not yet. I do want to get a get a hold of him. Anyways, the theory is that they're using this girl group to see how we'll work as touring. Because as you know, we always seen like the same cities. New York, Los Angeles, maybe Dallas. So on their list, are they going to Toronto? Yeah, girl.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

No, no, no, not Toronto.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

No, so they're not Vancouver.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Well, they're going to the because Toronto's Ontario. So that's why I was like, so they're doing two in Ontario, but they're not. They're doing that, what Hamble. I don't think Toronto's Ontario. Toronto's Ontario. Is it? Yeah. Okay.

P1Harmony’s Toronto Postponement

SPEAKER_00 18:16

I'm pretty sure. Okay. I'm not sure. I thought it was Vanguard. But they're doing that wasn't. Well, Vancouver, British Columbia?

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Well, because that's up by That's sort of near Seattle.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

But yeah, that's West Coast.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

So I was gonna say that's that sort of makes sense because that would cover, you know, for Washington and Oregon. Although they're doing Seattle too. So But no, that's why I was like, well, Toronto would be Ontario too, but they're not doing Toronto, they're doing whatever that I can't even remember the name of the place you said. Hammington. Hammington. I've never heard of no, me neither. That's why I'm like, what is that? Sorry, sorry, Canada.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

The only ones I know is like Montreal and Toronto and then Vancouver. You know, those are the ones that I know, like the biggest that I know from Canada. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Well, actually, I I know someone from uh Saskatchewan, from uh Regina. They don't say I don't I don't know how they pronounce it, but St.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Paul? St. Paul Minnesota? What? They're lucky.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Well, I mean they're but they're like going, it's almost like they're doing this spiral around the yeah, they're going west coast. They bounce up and down a little on the east coast.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

And then east coast, you know? Wow. That's crazy though. That is awesome. Orlando. Orlando. Well, they have some K-pop acts have gone to Orlando. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yes. Wow. I know. So the theory is they're gonna or the rumor theory is that they're using this girl group's touring pattern to see how they will do for other acts. If they do very well, meaning if they sell out all those shows, that they that the companies may use it for their other acts, like meaning they're doing the same pattern. Which, hello, it should be like that since the get-go. But again, it all depends on who's the promoter, how they're gonna be working with the company, uh the money, of course, that's gonna be involved. This is this is huge. This is a huge production. And also, like what kind of staging they're gonna do. If they do like a simple staging and just only lighting and just to showcase the girls, that will be amazing. I'm not pooing on some of the productions that are like huge with just things because sometimes it gets too overwhelming that it's like, what am I looking at? And you get confused and disoriented. What we have seen in the past, well, I have seen in the past, that I'm like, oh, there's a laser like on my eye. There's pizza right here, and there's this light. Like, I'm all like, where's where's where's the band? Where's the group? You know, I have this thing on my face. So if it's well, well, we check the TD garden and the stage, we it's gonna be amazing because I'm like, oh my god, look at the seating.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Yeah, if they if they're setting, if they're really setting it up the way that they show it for the um ticket sales.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Actually, there's an actual picture of the staging on their if you go to Instagram and you go to the their let's see. Actually, I'm looking at this one from K-pop X Atlanta. This is their Instagram picture of the promotional JYP and Live Nation picture. If it's the same staging, this is all you need. Because everybody's just there to see the girls. I mean, you can't. Well, that's yeah, that's often how I feel about you.

TWICE’s Expansive North America Tour

SPEAKER_01 21:53

You're really there to see the artists. Yeah, so all the other stuff, you know, extra is is extra. Yeah. Because we talked about sort of the comparison, even though we didn't see J Hope on stage. We compared his and Jin's like Jin had a very simple screen. He had a couple of props here and there. Yeah. But mostly it was him and some lighting. Exactly. Whereas J Hope had like these big and I'm not dissing it, it was amazing. Oh, yeah. But like it was also it was also we were just watching it on a live stream and it was like overwhelming at the same time. Right. And when we saw Baby Metal, yeah, there were times where all of the LED lit up stage stuff and the lighting at once was overwhelming. Whereas it was like when it was just them sort of dancing around on that central stand, you know, stage in just some lighting, it was it was okay, but like once all the lights start going and the LED things are flashing, and you're like, whoa, where where are the girls?

SPEAKER_00 22:55

Yeah. So it was too busy.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

And I understand sometimes, you know, you need your flash and your pump or whatever, like in huge, massive stadiums, so that people way back in the nosebleeds can see something going on on stage. But like for the most part, yeah, all you need is your your artists and some lighting and maybe a little backdrop. And you can focus on them and what's going on and focus on the music and not get and we need to have our jumbotrons.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Yeah. Because for the ones where nosebleeds, we we get we want to see the person, you know. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Without that's a you know, have a couple of the screens and whatever, but like because the big productions are awesome, but only if you're in the front row.

unknown 23:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

You know, where you see all because otherwise it's just a bunch of flashing and you know just think of this.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Even you're like floor front row, you're gonna be missing out some stuff. Oh, yeah. Because they're like right on your face, and you're like, what the heck is that?

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Well, and also you're lower than them, so you're not seeing what's on the exact, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Depending on how the staging is, if it's like way on the side of the c of the arena, let's say, because this these are gonna be arenas, it's like central, back, and that's the best view. You know, you start losing if you get into the you know to the sides, but that's just the only view. But if you have the stage right in the smack that center of the arena, yeah, yeah. It's amazing because there will be no bad view. Everybody will be able to see. Exactly. Yes, you will have the jumble trumps like maybe on the sides, if you cannot see at some point. But I mean, that's perfect. Example, the last Bad Bunny show that I saw. Not the one right now, but the Bad Bunny when he went to CT. He had two, he had a circle stage, a slit um, but half moons, like um half moon in one side and the other side, you know. That was amazing. We were kind of in the center, but we were able to see it in the way in the back. Perfect though. We saw him everywhere. Then he put himself on some platform that was flying around that we're like, oh my god, bad bunny. But that's perfect. And I'm like, wine counts are should be more like that. Like everybody should be in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah. I don't know. I think it's because of the way the old, like the old theater idea, you have the stage and then the well, when it comes to arenas, you can do the center stage.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Oh yeah. You know, like TD Garden. Like they're gonna be doing that. These are like mainly more sports venues, which you do need. So it that's that's perfect for it.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Well, yeah, because you're focusing on the court in the center, be it like uh ice hockey or um basketball, right? You know, stuff like that. So but even you know, even football stadiums, I don't think anything they're they're not doing stadiums though. They're doing just small the arenas arenas, like 20,000 person arenas, probably. But those are and those are perfect, yeah, for central stage stuff because Exactly when when you showed me that setup years ago, I saw you two there, and they they had the stage on one end, but they built a big runway circle around the whole floor area, so and everybody, even the drummer, he put on like a little snare and walked around. So no matter where you were, at some point you got to see them up close because even up in the nosebleeds, when they move around that outer circle, you can see them very clearly. So it was cool.

SPEAKER_00 26:40

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

So even though it wasn't a central stage thing, they used that throughout the show. I I love center things. We had a place down where I grew up, Melody tent. It's a it's a circle, it's literally a tent, like a circus tent, with a stage rotating in the center. Never a bad seat. Never. Oh, that's awesome. You could always see the act, no matter where it was.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

It should be like that. It should be like that. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

It doesn't even have to rotate the way this did. Right. As long as they can move around on the stage, right? People will see them. And that's awesome. You know, and they I know why a lot of people don't do the central stage. Because you can fit a lot of people in that floor space, so they feel like they're wasting it if it's taken up with the stage they're losing. But I'm like, you're losing seating by having the stage on one end because there's areas that people can't see. Exactly. Yeah, but it's apparently not as many seats. I don't know. That's just because especially if it's like a standing room only, like general admission, you can cram a lot of people, but I hate those. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

It's just it's this should be gone. But anyways, um okay, so they're doing melee arenas. I had you know, it'll be a good thing maybe next time I want to check the capacity for each venue that they're gonna be at. And also because T D Holt, you said what, 20 something?

SPEAKER_01 28:03

About twenty thousand.

unknown 28:05

Okay.

Why Center Stages Matter

SPEAKER_01 28:05

It depends on whether it's a concert or a sporting event. That's why I'm saying that's why they don't like to use that, because it changes the number of people who can sit in the arena. But it's generally about 19 to 20,000.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

So I put in TD garden basketball capacity because they also use floor, and that's roughly two, to you know, the twenty thousand. So it's like nineteen something. So what was the other one? Of course I could. Because there's a few.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

I know the Rosemont, if they're going to the Rosemont. I think that's one you mentioned in Chicago. That one is also about 19 to 20,000 people. So it seems like a lot of them probably range between 15 and 20.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

So now I looked up for the Kai Center in Orlando for basketball. It looks like that's what they're they're using. Places that host like basketball or hockey. Anyways, they host for this is for basketball, like roughly 18,000.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

So that's what that's what I was thinking is a lot of these places, low, like the low end would be 15 and the high end would be maybe 22.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

If they have the stage like that, like if like in a sports setting, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of fans. Yeah, definitely. And a lot of fans will be able to see them. And that's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

That's awesome, yeah. So hey. Well, if the the theory, if that theory is true, it it will definitely be a good indicator, not only of the draw, but also how they set up staging.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

It might make them rethink having the platform at one end of a stadium. Because, like I said, that's the tradition. And it's sort of based on the whole idea of theater and you know the ancient Roman theaters. It's the stage with the sort of half-shell audience to you. But once you get into big concerts and large venues like this, there's a big difference between the 3,000-seat Orpheum Theater versus TD Garden. You know what I mean? Your fans are getting further and further away and not seeing as well when you set it up that way. Right. Center stage is definitely much better, much easier. Because even the shows where people like at least extend the stage halfway out into the floor area, like Sugar did. You know, the stage came about halfway across that arena on the floor. At least even the people at the far end in the nosebleeds could see what was going on because he was out in the audience. When we saw Kylie Minogue, she did that. She set up a a totally individual stage at our end, because we were the nosebleeds at the far end of the stadium. But you know, she had the main stage and then she had this little stage set up that she came out and did a few songs on. So it was like a little mini private concert for the people who were sitting way at the back. That's awesome, you know. But that's that's another at least another way they can deal with it is have those little multi platforms around. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yeah, no, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

Actually, you you've watched some of the RSH shows and tours. Yeah, they did that occasionally too, aside from the RSH movers and whatever. They had platforms out that they went and stood on too. So, you know, they always set up big they are massive, but yeah, and that's because June knows you gotta you gotta get all the people to be able to see what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Catering to the fans.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

And it doesn't have to be anything huge. Like I said, Kylie, it was just this one little stage. There was nothing, it was her, and like two dancers came out and did stuff on it.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

It's just her, then like you said, two dancers. That's fine, you know.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

And that's all you need. You don't have to bring a big set out onto that, you know. Again, we were here to see the artist. We wanted to hear her, see her. That was all it was about.

SPEAKER_00 32:18

So, our job as fans, we need to hype this up. We need to hype this up so those companies start thinking correctly on how to bring these good, you know, people over here, bring the artists over here. Come on, come on, you know. We have we have seen the the shit shows that's happening, like ATs and you know, straight kids. Because you know, they're doing these venues that it's like really not for concerts, and people are not able to see problem with weather because most of these venues, what I can what what I have seen, they're all have a roof. Yeah, so if there's rain, nobody's gonna get wet unless you're outside, and and everybody's gonna be comfortable, there's gonna be sitting, it's viewable, it's gonna be an amazing experience. So, yes, people go see twice. Twice is amazing. They have great songs. Oh my god, they have been the girls have been around for quite some time. Yeah, go support the ladies. Yes, this is gonna be an amazing tour. So it's like almost you can go to any tour, any date if you're like near that venue, you know? Oh, I'm like so happy. I know.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

No, when when that got announced, I I told you, remember? I was like, you sent me the thing, and I was like, oh yeah, I know there aren't I saw the announcement for the tour, but I assumed incorrectly, yeah. I was like, well, they're not gonna come to Boston, so I don't know if we'll be able to do it. No, and then you're like, Boston! I was like, oh, I should have looked at the dates, but I was I was of the mindset that it was gonna be like a lot of the other you know, artists would come over just yeah, New York, Chicago, LA.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

Yep, yeah, Wano. Like, what the hell, Wano? Why can't you do the same? Come on, Wano.

Venue Capacity and Sightlines

SPEAKER_01 34:19

Well, even look at card, and they're not even playing like huge venues. So frequently Boston gets shafted because of something, so she's but twice is coming to Boston, so that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 34:36

Yes, yes, and we're psyched for that.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Yeah, I guess you know, cards come into New York, so we can travel. It's not like we haven't gone to New York before. I know, and Newark. Yeah. At least now we at least now we're familiar with New York, and I won't be so, you know, like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

The murder capital of the world. Oh, you're not North America.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

According to Ross on Friends.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

There are not many friendly people over there. Um girl, you know.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

Well, it was just it's not um well, it's never been a place I was like, yeah, let's just go to Newark and check out the lake. You know, it's not like thinking of New York or Boston where you know you hit town and there's plenty of places to shop and plenty of places to eat. Because like even looking at the map, I was like, there's only like two restaurants near the prudential venue.

SPEAKER_02 35:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

I didn't search a whole whole lot, but I I just felt like it's not as um tourist friendly.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Tourist inviting as like New York or Boston or Chicago.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Well, you know the place that we went, it was the home of the New Jersey Devils, the hockey team. And I mean, if you want food or everything, you get it in there. Because they do have a really nice, we didn't eat there, but they had a really good um a lot of kiosks, yeah, uh shopping, I'm not shopping, food uh stalls, you know. Um, but it's like, yeah, you eat here. Don't go out there, stay here.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

You come in and you stay here. Exactly. Which Yeah, that's true. They did have a lot of food stuff.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Which has as you know, they are the police barricaded a lot of the streets, so we are to stay there. So which I was like, I feel kind of safe, but not really.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Why you know, and um sorry, I bouncing back to twice. You said Belmont Parkway in New York. Was that one of those places? Because I'm thinking isn't it doing New York twice? Yeah, I thought you said Belmont. Girl, why are you making stuff in your head? I'm hearing things, maybe You are. Look at it, look at your list. Ay Dios mio I'm trying to think of all the places that you were saying. I'm trying to Oh my god. Mirami va salamilo de Puerto Ricaña.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Okay, mira.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

They're not doing anything in New York, is that what you're telling me? Panic's giving me the stink eye.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

Okay, I'm gonna give you the East Coast dates or venues. Venues, okay. So we have Montreal, we have the Hamilton, Ontario, then we have Orlando, Charlotte, New North Carolina, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Saint Paul, Denver, and Austin. Dano, New York, girl. Wow. Oh, I lie. There is a New York. Belmont.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Okay, you got it. Oh, it is Belmont. Okay. So I think that that's I'm wondering if that's the um Oh, two dates in Belmont. So I'm wondering if that's the um the UBS arena? Yes. Because that's the the Belmont Parkway, the racetrack.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

We went to see uh Sugar there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

It wasn't but they didn't say Belmont. Yeah, well, I guess they called it Belmont because that's but they just kept saying U UBS Arena in New York. So that's why I was like, when you said Belmont, I was like, what's a where the hell? Belmont's like, oh, it's the New York, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:45

Yeah, crazy. 18 and 20. 18 and 20.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

So they're is that the only place they're doing two dates?

SPEAKER_00 38:55

No. Also Los Angeles, of course. Oh, yeah, yeah. Let me see what else. So, okay, so only Los Angeles and Belmont Park in New York will have two dates. So the starts, the tour starts in Vancouver, British Columbia on January 9th at Rogers Arena. See, these are all arenas.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm thinking it's the UBS Arena in Belmont.

Touring Patterns Beyond the “Big 8”

SPEAKER_00 39:22

Yeah. Okay. It doesn't say arena, it's the garden.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Because it's always been the garden.

SPEAKER_00 39:33

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Boston Garden. Yeah. They keep trying to tell me it's TD Garden, but it's not. It's Boston Garden. It's the garden. Oh man. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

Are we done with this episode? Because it's probably well, because we've been having too much fun and we've been uh no, but we're very excited about this tour. Yeah. We gotta hype this girls. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta. So we can teach, you know, let them go.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

Yeah, the girl groups frequently get sort of the short end of the stick as far as uh promotion and stuff. So this is I mean, that's a huge tour.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

It is. This is a tour. That's this is considerate tour.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

That yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Oh my god, not just only five cities. Come on. Hey, North American tour. Five cities. I'm like, what the hell is it? Actually, they usually do eight cities.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

It's you know, like what's up, what's up, you know? But definitely cool. So I'm sure we'll we'll talk more about it, give everybody updates. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh man. Okay, all right. So we'll wrap it up there.

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SPEAKER_00 41:50

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SPEAKER_00 42:44

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